David Sacks

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Welcome to another episode of the All In interview.

I'm really excited to be joined by, back to All In, Harvard professor Graham Allison.

Professor Allison, welcome back to All In.

Thanks for having me.

We last had you at the summit in Los Angeles, so it's great to have a conversation.

A lot's happened since we last got together.

For the audience, Graham Allison's the founding dean of the Harvard Kennedy School.

He's advised every secretary of defense since Kissinger.

He's helped dismantle 12,000 Soviet nuclear weapons.

And his book, Destined for War, remains the definitive framework for understanding the U.S.-China relationship.

I think it's worth kind of bringing forward some of the things that have happened in the world since we last met.

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