David Sacks

And this person was, uh,

She was a journalist who co-authored the book with her?

And then what ended up happening?

Was there a book published?

So they basically said that this manuscript, which had been the basis for her story and- A lot of the mythology.

That probably is one of the most repeated claims in respect to Epstein, which is that Bill Clinton was on the island.

And you're saying that's just completely untrue.

And that came from VRG's manuscript, which ultimately they had to admit was a work of fiction, nonfiction.

At least her own lawyers did.

Wait, so they ultimately did publish a version of the manuscript?

Yes, last year.

And did that book include the accusations against Dershowitz and Bill Clinton?

Or had that been removed by that point?

Okay, the three women that you mentioned, Gufray, Ransom, Farmer, did they have the same lawyers or different lawyers?

Were the lawyers working together?

No.

Okay.

And even the Deutsche Bank settlement, I don't think I'd heard of that.

What was that?

Wait, this is with Deutsche Bank?