David Senra

which is the most fun and rewarding experience of a lifetime.

And I remember the little opening quote in this compilation of his life's writing by Joseph Campbell that was done by his niece or something.

the little opening quote in the book is, the privilege of a lifetime is being who you are.

And the people that make things that are the most interesting, those things are a reflection of themselves.

That's the most sustainable form of creation.

If you can sort of spill yourself onto the thing you're making, which benefits others, the thing, you know, being of service to other people in some way, I think that's the thing that we're, actually, I think that's what we're all after.

I think what we all want is to participate in the act of creation,

in a small way that reflects the act of creation going on at a grand scale.

And to have that experience of in so doing by pouring oneself out into the thing and then having the thing be of service to others, that's an amazing feeling.

And it's hard to get going, but once you do, I don't know anybody, I've never met anybody that's had that experience and gone back, not one.

It's because I think it's the thing that we're all after, and that's what you're doing too with the show.

Well, the trap is before you do the work to figure out the thing that makes you feel alive,

There's this great line in the Upanishads that it's always referred to abiding joy, like joy that doesn't run out.

You don't use it up like you use up so many resources.

As you use it, you get more of it.

That's abiding joy.

the target for most people becomes the traditional money power fame because those are worldly proxies for success that we all recognize and are for sure to some degree true it's hard to get a lot of those three things without being successful in some way i think those those things are huge traps because

Once you start to get one, it's the thing you start chasing and it's different than chasing the feeling of being alive, that abiding joy of feeling alive that we talked about earlier, which you'll never run out of.

That will always guide you well, always.

And money power fame will not.