David Senra

Like, I think maybe that's another reason I don't like being interviewed.

I don't like telling.

I'd rather just set an example.

But I was thinking, what example do I want to show Pierce?

And then

I don't remember my exact chain of thinking, but it ended up in this idea of everything I just talked about.

So it was born of wondering, like, what example do I want my son to see and emulate?

Because I'm sure you've learned this about kids as well.

They don't do what you tell them.

They do what you do.

They just copy you.

And so how you behave is how you parent.

And I was thinking about that at age 28 and wrote this thing.

And so that's where it came from.

So right around then is probably the first time I thought about it.

I actually don't think I could have articulated the principle as I just laid it out until very recently.

So I could have told you about the power of

Brett Victor's inventing on principle starting 10 years ago or whenever I first saw it, but I would not have been able to articulate the principle to you cleanly.

And that's because it's hard.

It's hard to pin, for whatever reason, it's really hard to pin this down.