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David Shipley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
182 total appearances

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The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

And, you know, it's things like scarcity and reciprocity and liking.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

These are known manipulation techniques for human beings.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

Turns out when you train an AI off of human writing and you're susceptible to those, it's super susceptible to it as well.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

And so there's a paper that came out called Call Me a Jerk.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

It's an academic paper.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

It's really easy to read.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

University of Pennsylvania did it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

And they broke all the guardrails on chat GPT.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

It's not supposed to be allowed to insult you.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

It's supposed to be a sycophant by design.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

And they were able to use these well-known techniques from door-to-door salesmen from decades ago to convince these AI to do really bad things, including generate recipes for certain drugs.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

Exactly, but imagine...

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

if the recipes, the code recipes that this thing was taught included really good recipes as well as really, really terrible recipes, and it does not know the difference.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

In fact, the more often something appears, like a common coding error, the more likely it is to think, this is what you do in this sequence.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

So it literally took bad code

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

and made it the median, the average code that this thing produced.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

So the OWASP top 10, if we're really nerding out on the show, there's like 10 known coding screw ups that everyone still keeps doing today.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

And this thing literally was trained on code examples that have a lot of this in it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

So it often produces this.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Security Problem With Moltbook

It's meant to be a power saw, not a self-driving car.