David Spark

Because that's what you want to see fault lines.

If a tabletop goes without fault lines, you're like, we did something wrong.

And let me ask you that getting to the line of playing poker without money is not playing poker.

And I think if you bring in a third party, correct me if I'm wrong here, because I don't do tabletops, but

I would envision they know how to put on a performance.

You know what I mean?

And so even though it's not, quote, real, they'll create sort of some false sense of urgency that will make your team act a little bit more intense.

Do you see that to be the case?

I have a question for you, Sarah.

You say you do it quarterly, which is fantastic.

I don't think I've heard anybody do it that often.

What are some of the big leaps that you see that they're making from a tabletop from the earliest to the latest one?

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