David Weisburd

How would you explain the mechanics around that?

Is that a specific case where you had to just burn through all your relationships in two, three years because there's a short window?

Or is there some general wisdom there for highly disruptive startup founders?

Would that be the case if you were a customer of that entrepreneur?

Clearly that would be counterproductive to scaling, but it's really your seat, your commodity to that entrepreneur.

So he didn't find the need to use niceties and waste time with you as a commodity versus if he was trying to secure a large product or a large contract, that would be a necessary condition for him to succeed.

Yeah.

If you think about your energy and being nice as being highly energy consuming, they have an efficient use of their energy when it comes to different parts of the value chain.

Of course that sounds like a psychopathic, but when you take away the moral frame on it and you look at what's going to lead to, if you're trying to create an entrepreneur from scratch, that's going to execute at the highest speed with the fewest amount of resources, that's almost like the perfect equation.

You could be 100% psychopathic and provide massive value to society.

I'm not going to name any founders.

Psychopathy is a clinical definition of not caring, having low empathy and all these things.

You could literally be clinically psychopathic.

And if you have the right incentives, they could end up actually carrying society forward.

And you could say that's wrong, that's bad.

But on a net basis, they're actually very positive for society.

Yep.

Last time we chatted, you said that whoever controls society

the computing platform controls the future.

What form factor do you expect the future of compute to take form?