David Wilson

And to kind of fast track him into the senior team is just quite interesting.

It's not something that Ireland have really traditionally done, especially if you look at that era before when Stephen Kenny took over, like we really had a per record of transitioning players from underage squads or maybe younger players into a senior squad.

We have like a...

I don't know, we had like a bit of a thing where, you know, maybe the more experienced kind of player in a championship would get in ahead of someone who might be maybe less developed and a bit younger.

Getting into squads, I suppose, like under kind of Mick McCarty, Martin O'Neill, and that's what kind of happened.

And Kenny is kind of, Stephen Kenny kind of changed the mentality or the mood on that.

And now we have Hamer who's kind of brought this on again.

with a player like jade numa who we all watched in the under 17 world cup last year as well who could play you know off the left and maybe through the middle i think it's an exciting time and it's probably the best time to bring him in he's been fast-tracked to the 21s now fast-tracked to the senior senior squad um it's yeah i don't know about you ben but i think it's something that maybe ireland have have not done well over the last couple of years maybe the last maybe 10 15 years and this is maybe a kind of a change in the change in the mindset maybe

No, like you were right last week, I think both of you were right, that there would be no players playing in their seasons.

Within the squad, I kind of was on the... I was kind of wishing more than anything else that these players would be involved and that the League of Ireland and the FI could come to sort of an agreement about releasing these players.

Yeah, like...

on the League of Ireland players in the squad I think like Victor Arsene Wion is the obvious one I have seen quite a bit of him this season I saw him a couple weeks ago against Derry City up in Celtic Park and you know he just looks like he's cut above everybody else he can kind of do everything and I think he'll be in the squad for the last game in May and the Canada game I just think he's just that good he's just unbelievable I know you were speaking to him today Ben about

what the next level what the kind of progression looks like for us in Vuna but from like my point of view I thought he just looked exceptional and I'm disappointed that he and a couple other lads from the League of Ireland aren't in the squad but that's just the nature of the kind of the football calendar

Yeah, just on the Real Murcia game, I know this is quite a nerdish football question, but will it be behind closed doors and or journalists going to be allowed in to watch?

Just on Real Murcia, they are 13th, I think in the third tier, they're divided into groups in Spain.

They'll be in the middle of the week.

They play Ireland on Wednesday behind closed doors, friendly.

they play Juventud Torremolinos in the league on the Saturday so they'll probably have gonna be tropic so it's gonna they'll probably play a bit of a second string team there but that's where they are they really have nothing to play for

Yeah, it's interesting.

He's played... He's kind of came in with a big reputation.