David Zweig

It was like, I'm actually getting value out of New York Magazine. Later in The Atlantic and other places. Right. And in Wired, which is, you know, ostensibly nonpolitical.

Right. So, okay. Somehow I managed to get my contrarian pieces in these publications. And people have asked me why and how did that happen? Because I've had other journalists who sort of shared some of my views. How did you do it? I said, because I provided evidence. Like, I think that's what it comes down to. But...

Right. So, okay. Somehow I managed to get my contrarian pieces in these publications. And people have asked me why and how did that happen? Because I've had other journalists who sort of shared some of my views. How did you do it? I said, because I provided evidence. Like, I think that's what it comes down to. But...

Right. So, okay. Somehow I managed to get my contrarian pieces in these publications. And people have asked me why and how did that happen? Because I've had other journalists who sort of shared some of my views. How did you do it? I said, because I provided evidence. Like, I think that's what it comes down to. But...

One of the things that I talk about is once these articles started coming out, I started getting emails from doctors around the country and regular people too, and former CDC officials. And these were doctors, not just necessarily some random pediatrician in a suburb somewhere. We're talking about people at elite university hospitals, at some of our top institutions.

One of the things that I talk about is once these articles started coming out, I started getting emails from doctors around the country and regular people too, and former CDC officials. And these were doctors, not just necessarily some random pediatrician in a suburb somewhere. We're talking about people at elite university hospitals, at some of our top institutions.

One of the things that I talk about is once these articles started coming out, I started getting emails from doctors around the country and regular people too, and former CDC officials. And these were doctors, not just necessarily some random pediatrician in a suburb somewhere. We're talking about people at elite university hospitals, at some of our top institutions.

And they would write me and say, I want you to know I agree with you. I think what's going on is crazy. There's no evidence of closing schools is going to be beneficial. This is terrible. Having little, you know, toddlers wearing masks, whatever it was. He said, I want to agree with you, but this all has to be off the record. I can't talk about it publicly. And I was like, why?

And they would write me and say, I want you to know I agree with you. I think what's going on is crazy. There's no evidence of closing schools is going to be beneficial. This is terrible. Having little, you know, toddlers wearing masks, whatever it was. He said, I want to agree with you, but this all has to be off the record. I can't talk about it publicly. And I was like, why?

And they would write me and say, I want you to know I agree with you. I think what's going on is crazy. There's no evidence of closing schools is going to be beneficial. This is terrible. Having little, you know, toddlers wearing masks, whatever it was. He said, I want to agree with you, but this all has to be off the record. I can't talk about it publicly. And I was like, why?

How is this happening? Because one, they knew. The environment was so clear. People aren't stupid that they self-censored. And number two, they were overtly censored. Many people were admonished by their superiors. Some administrator at the hospital saying, don't ever talk about this again. And I have a couple stories of that where people spoke out. So there was this environment overtly

How is this happening? Because one, they knew. The environment was so clear. People aren't stupid that they self-censored. And number two, they were overtly censored. Many people were admonished by their superiors. Some administrator at the hospital saying, don't ever talk about this again. And I have a couple stories of that where people spoke out. So there was this environment overtly

How is this happening? Because one, they knew. The environment was so clear. People aren't stupid that they self-censored. And number two, they were overtly censored. Many people were admonished by their superiors. Some administrator at the hospital saying, don't ever talk about this again. And I have a couple stories of that where people spoke out. So there was this environment overtly

where no one, no one could be seen, including, you know, a university hospital as an institution, none of them could be seen as agreeing with Trump.

where no one, no one could be seen, including, you know, a university hospital as an institution, none of them could be seen as agreeing with Trump.

where no one, no one could be seen, including, you know, a university hospital as an institution, none of them could be seen as agreeing with Trump.

I was there with Jay.

I was there with Jay.

I was there with Jay.

Oh yeah. You can do that to me from Harvard, Stanford and Oxford. Oh. If they're maligned, if they're called fringe, I don't stand a chance against this. So there was no way that. And look, I'm sympathetic toward if this is someone how they're making their living, you know, taking care of their family. They've spent the last 20 years studying in order to work in medicine.