David Zweig

Oh yeah. You can do that to me from Harvard, Stanford and Oxford. Oh. If they're maligned, if they're called fringe, I don't stand a chance against this. So there was no way that. And look, I'm sympathetic toward if this is someone how they're making their living, you know, taking care of their family. They've spent the last 20 years studying in order to work in medicine.

Oh yeah. You can do that to me from Harvard, Stanford and Oxford. Oh. If they're maligned, if they're called fringe, I don't stand a chance against this. So there was no way that. And look, I'm sympathetic toward if this is someone how they're making their living, you know, taking care of their family. They've spent the last 20 years studying in order to work in medicine.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to the idea that they didn't want to get fired.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to the idea that they didn't want to get fired.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to the idea that they didn't want to get fired.

And NIH more broadly. That's right. When you control the purse strings. But I would say, Megan, even beyond any sort of explicit thread of withholding funding, people were social creatures. And most people...

And NIH more broadly. That's right. When you control the purse strings. But I would say, Megan, even beyond any sort of explicit thread of withholding funding, people were social creatures. And most people...

And NIH more broadly. That's right. When you control the purse strings. But I would say, Megan, even beyond any sort of explicit thread of withholding funding, people were social creatures. And most people...

are not really inclined to be in the out group, and I talk about this in the book, is that if you think about medicine, it self-selects generally for a certain type of person, a really hard worker, someone who's smart. These are great traits in a doctor, hard worker and smart, but it also selects for rule followers. It doesn't select for iconoclasts.

are not really inclined to be in the out group, and I talk about this in the book, is that if you think about medicine, it self-selects generally for a certain type of person, a really hard worker, someone who's smart. These are great traits in a doctor, hard worker and smart, but it also selects for rule followers. It doesn't select for iconoclasts.

are not really inclined to be in the out group, and I talk about this in the book, is that if you think about medicine, it self-selects generally for a certain type of person, a really hard worker, someone who's smart. These are great traits in a doctor, hard worker and smart, but it also selects for rule followers. It doesn't select for iconoclasts.

You go in, you do your residency, you have to listen to the attending. You're not going to start challenging them. They got there by following the rules. These are people who their general nature is not to be an outcast. So they don't want to be cast out of that social group. And I would argue the same thing is within the sort of prestige media outlets. How do you get to the New York Times?

You go in, you do your residency, you have to listen to the attending. You're not going to start challenging them. They got there by following the rules. These are people who their general nature is not to be an outcast. So they don't want to be cast out of that social group. And I would argue the same thing is within the sort of prestige media outlets. How do you get to the New York Times?

You go in, you do your residency, you have to listen to the attending. You're not going to start challenging them. They got there by following the rules. These are people who their general nature is not to be an outcast. So they don't want to be cast out of that social group. And I would argue the same thing is within the sort of prestige media outlets. How do you get to the New York Times?

Well, you got straight A's in school growing up. Then you went to Brown. Then maybe you went to Columbia Journalism School. And now you're at the Times. I'm not saying every reporter there is like this. There certainly are plenty who are excellent reporters important independent work there.

Well, you got straight A's in school growing up. Then you went to Brown. Then maybe you went to Columbia Journalism School. And now you're at the Times. I'm not saying every reporter there is like this. There certainly are plenty who are excellent reporters important independent work there.

Well, you got straight A's in school growing up. Then you went to Brown. Then maybe you went to Columbia Journalism School. And now you're at the Times. I'm not saying every reporter there is like this. There certainly are plenty who are excellent reporters important independent work there.

But nevertheless, the broader type of person who gets into an institution like that is the same type of person who's going to get into Columbia University Medical Center and these types of places. It self-selects for people who got to where they are, became successful by being part of an in-group. So you have these two institutions, health and

But nevertheless, the broader type of person who gets into an institution like that is the same type of person who's going to get into Columbia University Medical Center and these types of places. It self-selects for people who got to where they are, became successful by being part of an in-group. So you have these two institutions, health and

But nevertheless, the broader type of person who gets into an institution like that is the same type of person who's going to get into Columbia University Medical Center and these types of places. It self-selects for people who got to where they are, became successful by being part of an in-group. So you have these two institutions, health and