David

Well, secular people might lean on like natural law and say like there are certain things that violate what it means to be like a fruitful human. So like infringing on someone else's life or like sexual violence, stuff like that. So like we know that internally as a species that that is not good. So you could come to that conclusion outside of the DNA.

But keep going, keep going. Or like Alex O'Connor. He'd be a good person to... Right, he's great. But he popularized this idea. I forget what philosopher came up with it, but I think it's ethical emotivism. So basically it's this idea that you can basically just say like... Something that happens, you could say, oh, boo that thing. So like murder. You're not saying like murder is right or wrong.

But keep going, keep going. Or like Alex O'Connor. He'd be a good person to... Right, he's great. But he popularized this idea. I forget what philosopher came up with it, but I think it's ethical emotivism. So basically it's this idea that you can basically just say like... Something that happens, you could say, oh, boo that thing. So like murder. You're not saying like murder is right or wrong.

But keep going, keep going. Or like Alex O'Connor. He'd be a good person to... Right, he's great. But he popularized this idea. I forget what philosopher came up with it, but I think it's ethical emotivism. So basically it's this idea that you can basically just say like... Something that happens, you could say, oh, boo that thing. So like murder. You're not saying like murder is right or wrong.

You're not putting like a truth value on it. You're just saying boo murder. So like your emotional reaction to murder to something is what justifies your moral compass. And then ideally, whatever the majority feels about a specific thing then creates the social fabric for how that's enlisted into law.

You're not putting like a truth value on it. You're just saying boo murder. So like your emotional reaction to murder to something is what justifies your moral compass. And then ideally, whatever the majority feels about a specific thing then creates the social fabric for how that's enlisted into law.

You're not putting like a truth value on it. You're just saying boo murder. So like your emotional reaction to murder to something is what justifies your moral compass. And then ideally, whatever the majority feels about a specific thing then creates the social fabric for how that's enlisted into law.

Well, within our own civil society, we're not. But then when it comes to war, that's not murder. So there are these little spaces where murder can exist. Right. It's justified self-defense. And what if it's a duel? No, then if both parties are consenting, then it's not murder.

Well, within our own civil society, we're not. But then when it comes to war, that's not murder. So there are these little spaces where murder can exist. Right. It's justified self-defense. And what if it's a duel? No, then if both parties are consenting, then it's not murder.

Well, within our own civil society, we're not. But then when it comes to war, that's not murder. So there are these little spaces where murder can exist. Right. It's justified self-defense. And what if it's a duel? No, then if both parties are consenting, then it's not murder.

Yeah. And if they're both consenting to do it, assuming there's no coercion, then...

Yeah. And if they're both consenting to do it, assuming there's no coercion, then...

Yeah. And if they're both consenting to do it, assuming there's no coercion, then...

Yeah, it's a fire philosophical debate. Like the first day in my philosophy class in college, this is one of the questions they brought up.

Yeah, it's a fire philosophical debate. Like the first day in my philosophy class in college, this is one of the questions they brought up.

Yeah, it's a fire philosophical debate. Like the first day in my philosophy class in college, this is one of the questions they brought up.

Same-sex incest. Yeah. Is that unethical?

Same-sex incest. Yeah. Is that unethical?

Same-sex incest. Yeah. Is that unethical?

And you could argue on a biological basis that humans feel that it's wrong. Why? Like, through, like, pheromones. So, like, a person would be more attracted to, like, a dissimilar person than to a relative based off of, like, pheromone levels and stuff like that. Okay. So, like, for the reproductive health of a society, most people would go to diversify their genetic lineage.