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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Everybody likes him. He gets everything he wants. And everybody who has him in a lawyer, they leave jail. They don't stay in there. You know what I mean? He gets, he's serious about it. He doesn't want you in jail. If he's, if you're his client, he doesn't want you in jail. I'm like, I mean, I gotta have this idiot on my, I gotta have him on my, on this phone case. And I'm begging him.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He just, he starts making up reasons why he can't do it. I don't know what his problem was. I don't know why, but I mean, It didn't seem like he didn't like me. Right now, I have this problem with this other lawyer that they got. This guy, he's just an arrogant jerk. I didn't like him. He used to be a cop. He just didn't see any reason to fight the case. He just wasn't going to do it, basically.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He just, he starts making up reasons why he can't do it. I don't know what his problem was. I don't know why, but I mean, It didn't seem like he didn't like me. Right now, I have this problem with this other lawyer that they got. This guy, he's just an arrogant jerk. I didn't like him. He used to be a cop. He just didn't see any reason to fight the case. He just wasn't going to do it, basically.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He just, he starts making up reasons why he can't do it. I don't know what his problem was. I don't know why, but I mean, It didn't seem like he didn't like me. Right now, I have this problem with this other lawyer that they got. This guy, he's just an arrogant jerk. I didn't like him. He used to be a cop. He just didn't see any reason to fight the case. He just wasn't going to do it, basically.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He's just not going to do it. He's not going to go do any homework about it or even try. Okay, this guy's got to go. But that's difficult because he doesn't want to go, really, and he's not going to give up. He's saying it's like a personal thing of them that I was trying to fire him. Like, you're not going to fire me. I'll show you I'm the lawyer here, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He's just not going to do it. He's not going to go do any homework about it or even try. Okay, this guy's got to go. But that's difficult because he doesn't want to go, really, and he's not going to give up. He's saying it's like a personal thing of them that I was trying to fire him. Like, you're not going to fire me. I'll show you I'm the lawyer here, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He's just not going to do it. He's not going to go do any homework about it or even try. Okay, this guy's got to go. But that's difficult because he doesn't want to go, really, and he's not going to give up. He's saying it's like a personal thing of them that I was trying to fire him. Like, you're not going to fire me. I'll show you I'm the lawyer here, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

So anyway, I'm still on bond, this stupid high bond. And I start trying to fire that lawyer. And the judge... Now, remember, by this time, my wife is involved. This is a small community. My wife's involved. She has a couple of her own lawyers, and they're public defenders. So I'm connected to that. I can't have the same lawyer she does, and she has a public defender.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

So anyway, I'm still on bond, this stupid high bond. And I start trying to fire that lawyer. And the judge... Now, remember, by this time, my wife is involved. This is a small community. My wife's involved. She has a couple of her own lawyers, and they're public defenders. So I'm connected to that. I can't have the same lawyer she does, and she has a public defender.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

So anyway, I'm still on bond, this stupid high bond. And I start trying to fire that lawyer. And the judge... Now, remember, by this time, my wife is involved. This is a small community. My wife's involved. She has a couple of her own lawyers, and they're public defenders. So I'm connected to that. I can't have the same lawyer she does, and she has a public defender.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

How many public defenders are there? There can't be very many. So I start plotting. I think, well, there's a fire mall. Until I get to John, they have to give me this lawyer. They have to, they don't have any choice. What are they going to do? What are they going to do? Not give me a lawyer, right? So I think this is brilliant. Oh, this is a great idea. This is going to work.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

How many public defenders are there? There can't be very many. So I start plotting. I think, well, there's a fire mall. Until I get to John, they have to give me this lawyer. They have to, they don't have any choice. What are they going to do? What are they going to do? Not give me a lawyer, right? So I think this is brilliant. Oh, this is a great idea. This is going to work.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

How many public defenders are there? There can't be very many. So I start plotting. I think, well, there's a fire mall. Until I get to John, they have to give me this lawyer. They have to, they don't have any choice. What are they going to do? What are they going to do? Not give me a lawyer, right? So I think this is brilliant. Oh, this is a great idea. This is going to work.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Once I got that guy on my case, I'm out of here. And I just knew it. I just, I just, I could tell. I knew he wouldn't, he wouldn't be able to, he wouldn't let me sit in jail anymore. It'd been too long. So anyway, this guy, this lawyer, that was a real problem. I can't, I can't shake this idiot off my case. So the first thing I did was,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Once I got that guy on my case, I'm out of here. And I just knew it. I just, I just, I could tell. I knew he wouldn't, he wouldn't be able to, he wouldn't let me sit in jail anymore. It'd been too long. So anyway, this guy, this lawyer, that was a real problem. I can't, I can't shake this idiot off my case. So the first thing I did was,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Once I got that guy on my case, I'm out of here. And I just knew it. I just, I just, I could tell. I knew he wouldn't, he wouldn't be able to, he wouldn't let me sit in jail anymore. It'd been too long. So anyway, this guy, this lawyer, that was a real problem. I can't, I can't shake this idiot off my case. So the first thing I did was,

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

was I started to tell my sister knows this whole story and I'm talking to her from jail. And she is by this time sick of me being in jail. I've been in jail for a long time. And she goes way out on a limb and hires this big wig, fancy law firm. I can't remember the name of this, but it was a high dollar law. It was a big deal. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, damn.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

was I started to tell my sister knows this whole story and I'm talking to her from jail. And she is by this time sick of me being in jail. I've been in jail for a long time. And she goes way out on a limb and hires this big wig, fancy law firm. I can't remember the name of this, but it was a high dollar law. It was a big deal. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, damn.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

was I started to tell my sister knows this whole story and I'm talking to her from jail. And she is by this time sick of me being in jail. I've been in jail for a long time. And she goes way out on a limb and hires this big wig, fancy law firm. I can't remember the name of this, but it was a high dollar law. It was a big deal. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, damn.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

One day they come to the, they come to my jail, my pod and they got me and they say, Hey, somebody's here to see you. And I I'm walking down there and you can, I could see where the lawyers are and stuff and where they let you meet with them. And I've seen this woman, woman lawyer, stand in this really nice suit. She's real tall. And I'm like, who is this?