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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And I thought, well, they might be able to do something, but odds are they're just going to, they're just going to give in. It's been so long. They're going to give in to either give me John or they won't, they won't, maybe they won't have a choice, you know? And I walked in the courtroom. You know, you're all shackled up now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

I walk in the courtroom and I looked over and there was old John sitting there in the chair like this with his head between his hands like, oh, my God. He was so mad and pissed about what was going on in the situation. And I swear he was crying. I was crying about it. And I was laughing. I'm like, yes, I know it worked. Why would he be in this courtroom if this didn't work? And I sit down and I

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

I walk in the courtroom and I looked over and there was old John sitting there in the chair like this with his head between his hands like, oh, my God. He was so mad and pissed about what was going on in the situation. And I swear he was crying. I was crying about it. And I was laughing. I'm like, yes, I know it worked. Why would he be in this courtroom if this didn't work? And I sit down and I

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

I walk in the courtroom and I looked over and there was old John sitting there in the chair like this with his head between his hands like, oh, my God. He was so mad and pissed about what was going on in the situation. And I swear he was crying. I was crying about it. And I was laughing. I'm like, yes, I know it worked. Why would he be in this courtroom if this didn't work? And I sit down and I

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And the judge, he leans back and he says, Oh, Mr. Bicklemeyer, last time we were in court, uh, you told me that, that, uh, you fired your lawyer, you fired your paid lawyer and, uh, and, and I'm going to give you, I tried to give you back so-and-so and you told me I couldn't do that. You told me that he wouldn't do it. And, uh, there was nothing I could do about it. And he said, and you're right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And the judge, he leans back and he says, Oh, Mr. Bicklemeyer, last time we were in court, uh, you told me that, that, uh, you fired your lawyer, you fired your paid lawyer and, uh, and, and I'm going to give you, I tried to give you back so-and-so and you told me I couldn't do that. You told me that he wouldn't do it. And, uh, there was nothing I could do about it. And he said, and you're right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And the judge, he leans back and he says, Oh, Mr. Bicklemeyer, last time we were in court, uh, you told me that, that, uh, you fired your lawyer, you fired your paid lawyer and, uh, and, and I'm going to give you, I tried to give you back so-and-so and you told me I couldn't do that. You told me that he wouldn't do it. And, uh, there was nothing I could do about it. And he said, and you're right.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

There wasn't. You win, you win. And I know what you're doing. I know that you want John on this case. And, um, And yeah, my hands are tied now. You got it. I'm going to give you John. He's not. Now he's your lawyer on your on these felony charges. He goes, there's only one problem. We got a little problem. And I was like, oh, what is it? What could the problem be?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

There wasn't. You win, you win. And I know what you're doing. I know that you want John on this case. And, um, And yeah, my hands are tied now. You got it. I'm going to give you John. He's not. Now he's your lawyer on your on these felony charges. He goes, there's only one problem. We got a little problem. And I was like, oh, what is it? What could the problem be?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

There wasn't. You win, you win. And I know what you're doing. I know that you want John on this case. And, um, And yeah, my hands are tied now. You got it. I'm going to give you John. He's not. Now he's your lawyer on your on these felony charges. He goes, there's only one problem. We got a little problem. And I was like, oh, what is it? What could the problem be?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And he says, John can't do it until May. This is like, dude, it's like four or five months later. I can't remember when this was a long time. Four months later. So I think back.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And he says, John can't do it until May. This is like, dude, it's like four or five months later. I can't remember when this was a long time. Four months later. So I think back.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And he says, John can't do it until May. This is like, dude, it's like four or five months later. I can't remember when this was a long time. Four months later. So I think back.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Almost a year. I would have been in prison. Yes, by that time, it would have been a year. I got arrested on June 23rd or something. And by this time, yeah, if the time would have went by that he tried to set aside, I would have been in there a year. So he thought he got me on that one. The judge thought, boy, you think you're smart, but John has a problem. He can't do it until May.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Almost a year. I would have been in prison. Yes, by that time, it would have been a year. I got arrested on June 23rd or something. And by this time, yeah, if the time would have went by that he tried to set aside, I would have been in there a year. So he thought he got me on that one. The judge thought, boy, you think you're smart, but John has a problem. He can't do it until May.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Almost a year. I would have been in prison. Yes, by that time, it would have been a year. I got arrested on June 23rd or something. And by this time, yeah, if the time would have went by that he tried to set aside, I would have been in there a year. So he thought he got me on that one. The judge thought, boy, you think you're smart, but John has a problem. He can't do it until May.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And I turned around and looked at him. He's over there. And I said, that's okay. That's okay. I'll wait. And by this time, I'm feeling good. I'm getting better anymore. I really don't care. And, man, I'm not kidding. It wasn't, listen, I looked over at him, and he's mad at me for what I did anyways. And he looks up, and he goes, or call me or whatever, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And I turned around and looked at him. He's over there. And I said, that's okay. That's okay. I'll wait. And by this time, I'm feeling good. I'm getting better anymore. I really don't care. And, man, I'm not kidding. It wasn't, listen, I looked over at him, and he's mad at me for what I did anyways. And he looks up, and he goes, or call me or whatever, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

And I turned around and looked at him. He's over there. And I said, that's okay. That's okay. I'll wait. And by this time, I'm feeling good. I'm getting better anymore. I really don't care. And, man, I'm not kidding. It wasn't, listen, I looked over at him, and he's mad at me for what I did anyways. And he looks up, and he goes, or call me or whatever, you know.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

So I'm laughing at him on the way out of the courtroom. And I went downstairs, and the first thing I did was call him. And he said, yeah, I know. Yeah, I'll be up there to see. I'll come up and see. Don't talk about it on the phone. I'll talk to you in the jail. I said, when can you be here? The judge said you couldn't do it. He goes, I don't know. I can do it. I can do it right now.