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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

She did not do that. And, and, and, uh, um, she certainly, she, she wouldn't even ask for bond. I told him the whole story and he goes, he said, yeah, well, if it's, if you can beat that case, if John beats that case and, and you come out of it without a felony, I'll give you your money back. I said, well, OK, it's not my money anyway. You have to give it back to my sister.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

She did not do that. And, and, and, uh, um, she certainly, she, she wouldn't even ask for bond. I told him the whole story and he goes, he said, yeah, well, if it's, if you can beat that case, if John beats that case and, and you come out of it without a felony, I'll give you your money back. I said, well, OK, it's not my money anyway. You have to give it back to my sister.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

But, yeah, that's a deal, you know, because I think he is going to beat the case for one. I just I think he can. And I certainly know this. He got me out of jail in three days. OK, and this idiot couldn't get me out of jail. We paid all that or my sister paid all that money to this woman who couldn't get me out of jail. We wouldn't even try. Wouldn't even ask for bond. He didn't believe it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

But, yeah, that's a deal, you know, because I think he is going to beat the case for one. I just I think he can. And I certainly know this. He got me out of jail in three days. OK, and this idiot couldn't get me out of jail. We paid all that or my sister paid all that money to this woman who couldn't get me out of jail. We wouldn't even try. Wouldn't even ask for bond. He didn't believe it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

But, yeah, that's a deal, you know, because I think he is going to beat the case for one. I just I think he can. And I certainly know this. He got me out of jail in three days. OK, and this idiot couldn't get me out of jail. We paid all that or my sister paid all that money to this woman who couldn't get me out of jail. We wouldn't even try. Wouldn't even ask for bond. He didn't believe it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Her boss didn't believe that she did that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Her boss didn't believe that she did that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Her boss didn't believe that she did that.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

and and my sister told me that when she hired you know after i get out just start finding out the whole story and she said yeah when i when i hired when i called that law firm they said hey we got just the person for that case she used to be a prosecutor in that county she knows everybody in that county blah blah blah blah she can do anything you know and it turns out i think really what happened was that she was very connected to that county she knew john john heard work together or something

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

and and my sister told me that when she hired you know after i get out just start finding out the whole story and she said yeah when i when i hired when i called that law firm they said hey we got just the person for that case she used to be a prosecutor in that county she knows everybody in that county blah blah blah blah she can do anything you know and it turns out i think really what happened was that she was very connected to that county she knew john john heard work together or something

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

and and my sister told me that when she hired you know after i get out just start finding out the whole story and she said yeah when i when i hired when i called that law firm they said hey we got just the person for that case she used to be a prosecutor in that county she knows everybody in that county blah blah blah blah she can do anything you know and it turns out i think really what happened was that she was very connected to that county she knew john john heard work together or something

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Like I said, she was his boss or he was her boss, and I think the prosecutor โ€“ I think she talked to this lawyer and was like, no, I don't think you understand this case. He's an asshole and all this, and we're not โ€“ I don't think you should let him do this. I think she told โ€“ I think they just โ€“ I think the prosecutor talked her out of it is what I think.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Like I said, she was his boss or he was her boss, and I think the prosecutor โ€“ I think she talked to this lawyer and was like, no, I don't think you understand this case. He's an asshole and all this, and we're not โ€“ I don't think you should let him do this. I think she told โ€“ I think they just โ€“ I think the prosecutor talked her out of it is what I think.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

Like I said, she was his boss or he was her boss, and I think the prosecutor โ€“ I think she talked to this lawyer and was like, no, I don't think you understand this case. He's an asshole and all this, and we're not โ€“ I don't think you should let him do this. I think she told โ€“ I think they just โ€“ I think the prosecutor talked her out of it is what I think.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

I think that's โ€“ and I think they made a personal agreement. And I also think โ€“ now, I asked my sister this later. I said, did you do that? Did you โ€“ I think maybe when she hired this lawyer, she might have said something like this. Listen, here's the case. My brother's in jail, and he's facing a felony. He doesn't want to take it, but I think I just want him out of jail. Just get him out of jail.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

I think that's โ€“ and I think they made a personal agreement. And I also think โ€“ now, I asked my sister this later. I said, did you do that? Did you โ€“ I think maybe when she hired this lawyer, she might have said something like this. Listen, here's the case. My brother's in jail, and he's facing a felony. He doesn't want to take it, but I think I just want him out of jail. Just get him out of jail.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

I think that's โ€“ and I think they made a personal agreement. And I also think โ€“ now, I asked my sister this later. I said, did you do that? Did you โ€“ I think maybe when she hired this lawyer, she might have said something like this. Listen, here's the case. My brother's in jail, and he's facing a felony. He doesn't want to take it, but I think I just want him out of jail. Just get him out of jail.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He's better now. He sounds better. Let's just get him out of jail. Do whatever you can. She might have said that. You know what I mean? So it's maybe not fair to come down on this woman that hard because maybe that's what โ€“ but she โ€“ My sister hired her, but she works for me. I had that argument with the woman personally.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He's better now. He sounds better. Let's just get him out of jail. Do whatever you can. She might have said that. You know what I mean? So it's maybe not fair to come down on this woman that hard because maybe that's what โ€“ but she โ€“ My sister hired her, but she works for me. I had that argument with the woman personally.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever

He's better now. He sounds better. Let's just get him out of jail. Do whatever you can. She might have said that. You know what I mean? So it's maybe not fair to come down on this woman that hard because maybe that's what โ€“ but she โ€“ My sister hired her, but she works for me. I had that argument with the woman personally.