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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And I think we could almost call the fat wallet thesis the super app thesis at this point.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I think in many ways they are one and the same.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And to your point about, you know, Fantom competing directly with Coinbase, 100%.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I think centralized exchanges, you know, will face a lot of headwinds from wallets.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And the reason why is you think about historically, why haven't maybe wallets presented a one-to-one competition with an exchange?

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

Well, it's because to get to a wallet, you have to go through an exchange.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

But if we have better fiat on-ramps, what if I can go directly to my phantom wallet?

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And that's that.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I'm earning interest on my deposits.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I have access to perps, to lending, to everything.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

I can trade all assets from one venue.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And I could hopefully do so with even lower fees than on Coinbase because Coinbase's spot fees are like egregiously high.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

So absolutely, I'm very bullish on this spot, on this fat wallet thesis.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

You call it the aggregation thesis.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

And two interesting things to note here is number one,

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

The economics of whoever owns the front end are phenomenal.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

If you look at whether it's Aerodrome or Uniswap for the average spot transaction, you're looking at like just a few cents in fees.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

Whereas somebody like Phantom is charging like an average of a dollar, right?

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

That's like a 50 to 100x higher take rate.

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The Duopolies of 2026: Ethereum & Solana, Coinbase & Robinhood, Polymarket & Kalshi | Ryan, David & Arnav Pagidyala

So it's very, very, very lucrative and there's an extreme premium on owning the end user.