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Davide Crapis

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And I kind of think that's what 8004 does is it like gives an identity framework for agents so that like the economy on the internet can know the reputation of the business that they would like to go be a consumer of.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So maybe there are like 10 billion agents

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

AI agents that just get spun up with no identity whatsoever, and they would like to consume some services.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

But really, the important thing to focus on is the actual value and reputation and identity of the agents on the internet that are actually creating valuable products and services.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

I think that's kind of what A004 does.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Davide, maybe you could like kind of take this conversation and run with it.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So the three main components that I want to drill down to on 804 is identity, reputation, and validation.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And I think these are all kind of like pretty easy to wrap our heads around.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

We've done podcasts on identity plenty of times.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

With A004, agents are identified with an ERC-721, which is an NFT.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

So wallets on Ethereum that are controlled by an agent get an NFT that is a like unique identifier stamp.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

It's like a fingerprint, an agent fingerprint.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Is that right?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

What assurances does 8004 provide the actual mapping of that NFT to that particular agent?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Because couldn't I kind of like hot swap the agent and like rug pull it?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And so like, you know, the NFT pointed to one agent, but then

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

as the human orchestrator, the human operator, can I just like kind of spin up a new agent?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And then all of a sudden that identity is going to a brand new agent.

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

And then what's the point of that identity in the first place?

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AI on Ethereum: ERC-8004, x402, OpenClaw and the Botconomy | Austin Griffith & Davide Crapis

Is that a problem?