Davina McCall

Unexpected friendship.

I think for him in particular, he was like, oh, my God, I love this woman.

That's when somebody comes up to me and goes, oh, my mom loves you.

Oh, yeah.

But it's lovely, I think, when you meet a whole new bunch of people that really almost don't know anything about you.

Yeah.

They've got no history with you or, you know, way back when.

You know, listening to your life and what you've been through and the beginnings of it and the sort of chaos and the

Moving around, Nan, how did you come to be fascinated by mindfulness?

What made you think, oh, this is something I'd like to experiment with?

When you say institution, do you mean like a treatment center?

Nightingale, yeah.

Le...

And did they tell you about that there, mindfulness?

You went on a bus?

A bus.

In your pajamas?

And I mean, I know this sounds a bit of a stupid question, but I'd be really interested to hear your take on exactly what mindfulness is.

You know, people think, oh, it's you sit down, you don't think of anything.

But like, what is it?