Davina McCall

Yeah.

Yeah, and more experience that happened.

It was just unbelievable.

And again, people just didn't want to listen to me when I'm trying to like look for help.

Gosh, 25 years ago?

Even with my mom, you know, we would speak about it and she would sort of level with me and have an ounce of empathy, even though she didn't have the tools to feel like she could protect me.

And I think a lot of that came from her own abandonment and her own abuse in her own situation.

So and in some way, she at least had a level of being able to understand what it was that I was going through, even if she didn't have the confidence to change it or protect me.

But, you know.

But it was everybody.

That got me a little bit.

Sorry.

That's okay.

Sorry.

It's okay.

Yeah, safety is so important.

Yeah, I've gone through lots of things that have helped me overcome or kind of dismantled what I was stuck in, whether it's been, you know, like crystals and rocks and essential oils and stuff, kind of had that moment.

But I do feel like meditating, spiritual healing, Reiki, lots of things, tools that kind of help me.

But to this day, I think I feel really grounded.

Having my kids is just the most amazing thing and they make me feel safe.