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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert.
I'm Dan Rather, and I'm joined by Barbara Walter.
It's been a minute.
Today we have a very interesting guest, Kaz Holman.
She is a play designer and RISD was a RISD professor.
Which I'm embarrassed I didn't know about RISD until we started doing this show.
Remember we had a guest and you were like, this is shameful that you don't know what RISD is.
But now I do.
Now you do.
She has a book out now called Playful.
Playful, ding, ding, ding.
How play shifts our thinking, inspires connection, and sparks creativity.
You know, the second I saw Playful, I was like, let's get Cass in here.
Please enjoy Cass Holman.
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