Dean Ball

And this is like this is what we face anyway.

And like we're the people and we're having this collective conversation about what do we do?

Who should we trust more at this point?

And I think that's a really, really thorny issue.

I think it's a pickle.

It's a real conundrum.

Well, I think actually one of the object level issues at stake in this debate illustrates this well, because

One of the restrictions that Anthropic wants to put on military use of its services is mass domestic surveillance.

And we have all these problems where we have a complex of laws that in practice don't afford a ton of protection, a ton of privacy protections for average people.

It would not be lawful for the government to put a camera in my house and for that camera feed to stream back to Fort Meade, which is where the National Security Agency is headquartered.

But...

there's a lot of other stuff.

There's, there are private things that are like, you know, one of my jokes is everything is a camera, right?

Like, uh, like there are, there are sensors all over the place and there are, um, all sorts of ways to infer, you know, where I am, what I'm doing, who I'm talking to, et cetera.

It's was shocking, you know, shocking amounts of, of, um, uh, fidelity to, to the truth, um, that don't involve the government, you know,

wiretapping me or anything that instead involve all these private sources of data and you know just things that happen in the world that we can now pick up on because we have better sensors than we used to and so you take those things that's that's a long-standing trend people in privacy circles have been talking about this for 15 20 years as a growing problem and it has been a growing problem the thing that ai introduces is that even with that growing problem

If I'm in the government and I say, I really want to know what Derek is doing, the problem with, I want to hire a Derek guy.

I want to follow these abundance guys.

They're dangerous.

They're dangerous rebels.