Debbie Lerman

And that is extremely frightening because in every single country, what happened was they started out saying, it's okay, it's fine, it's not a big deal, only old people and sick people get it. Okay, that's the first thing. Then they, on a particular date in the United States, and I think very, very specifically chosen dates, they pivoted to the lockdown until vaccine plan.

And that is extremely frightening because in every single country, what happened was they started out saying, it's okay, it's fine, it's not a big deal, only old people and sick people get it. Okay, that's the first thing. Then they, on a particular date in the United States, and I think very, very specifically chosen dates, they pivoted to the lockdown until vaccine plan.

And that happened in every single country at this, almost at the same time and in the same way. And I found indications and, and

And that happened in every single country at this, almost at the same time and in the same way. And I found indications and, and

I haven't done research about every country, and I wish that there were researchers in every country who would do parallel research to what I'm doing, but that bodies that were affiliated with national security took over the response in many countries, just like the National Security Council.

I haven't done research about every country, and I wish that there were researchers in every country who would do parallel research to what I'm doing, but that bodies that were affiliated with national security took over the response in many countries, just like the National Security Council.

And I have to add, it was also the Department of Homeland Security because HHS was actually replaced by FEMA, which is under the Department of Homeland Security's as the lead federal agency for pandemic response. So the scariest thing for me is that it wasn't just a national response, it was a global response, it was a coordinated response, and it was a non-public health response.

And I have to add, it was also the Department of Homeland Security because HHS was actually replaced by FEMA, which is under the Department of Homeland Security's as the lead federal agency for pandemic response. So the scariest thing for me is that it wasn't just a national response, it was a global response, it was a coordinated response, and it was a non-public health response.

And so what I came to was the same conclusion that Lisa came to, which is that there are global planning bodies that actually have more power than national governments. To me, that's really scary.

And so what I came to was the same conclusion that Lisa came to, which is that there are global planning bodies that actually have more power than national governments. To me, that's really scary.

It's complicated. I actually wrote two Substack posts that are very long and very comprehensive about what I think is going on. So I'll try to summarize. So it's everything you said. So it's a huge bureaucracy. It's Bill Gates and people like that. You have to envision what happened at the end of the Cold War. and with the war on terror.

It's complicated. I actually wrote two Substack posts that are very long and very comprehensive about what I think is going on. So I'll try to summarize. So it's everything you said. So it's a huge bureaucracy. It's Bill Gates and people like that. You have to envision what happened at the end of the Cold War. and with the war on terror.

So those two things kind of happened a little bit simultaneously. And what happened was there wasn't any more opposition to capitalism, or if people don't like to say capitalism, you can say corporatism, because it's not like true capitalism in the ideal sense. So global corporatism, where corporations joined with global governing bodies like the UN, like the WEF, like

So those two things kind of happened a little bit simultaneously. And what happened was there wasn't any more opposition to capitalism, or if people don't like to say capitalism, you can say corporatism, because it's not like true capitalism in the ideal sense. So global corporatism, where corporations joined with global governing bodies like the UN, like the WEF, like

the WHO, and created NGOs and created nonprofits that just like Lisa described, once the ball got rolling and all of these things started working together and what their goal is, is to sustain themselves and to suck resources and capital out of the world. So out of us. and into their sort of coffers or hands.

the WHO, and created NGOs and created nonprofits that just like Lisa described, once the ball got rolling and all of these things started working together and what their goal is, is to sustain themselves and to suck resources and capital out of the world. So out of us. and into their sort of coffers or hands.

And you can say that they're evil, and I'm sure that there are people who I would consider evil who are involved in it. There are people who have inordinate amounts of power, like Bill Gates and other multibillionaires who have more, they have more power than national governments. And if they decide that they're going to support an agenda,

And you can say that they're evil, and I'm sure that there are people who I would consider evil who are involved in it. There are people who have inordinate amounts of power, like Bill Gates and other multibillionaires who have more, they have more power than national governments. And if they decide that they're going to support an agenda,

They can buy every major academic institution in that area, for instance, in public health, and that academic institution is now doing whatever Bill Gates wants them to do. They're publishing the papers that he wants, and their studies are coming to the conclusions that he wants.

They can buy every major academic institution in that area, for instance, in public health, and that academic institution is now doing whatever Bill Gates wants them to do. They're publishing the papers that he wants, and their studies are coming to the conclusions that he wants.