Debbie Millman

Mm-hmm.

Drawing from personal geography, you traveled to Bermuda to understand your family's legacy, your father's legacy, to the Hudson Valley where you now live.

Your work explores how place holds beauty and violence, presence and erasure, and

And your paintings are not simply representations of landscape, but meditations on memory, material, and the layered histories embedded in land itself.

Do you think it's possible to depict landscape truthfully, or is every landscape in some way an invention?

You've talked about having to find ways into museums when you were younger.

We're having this conversation today now in a museum that since 2023 holds one of your paintings in its permanent collection, an institution that, like the landscapes you paint, is itself a site of history and access and transformation.

What do you imagine your painting being in dialogue with the other paintings here being?

And you don't have to sneak in anymore.

I have two last questions for you.

You have a painting here in one of the most, if not the most, famous museum in the world.

You're represented by the Gagosian Gallery.

Your work is in important collections and museums.

You've even designed the carpet and some of the ephemera for last year's Met Gala.

Does success impact the way you approach your practice?

Do you feel pressure to live up to anything specific?

How do you keep that aside?

My last question is actually, I think, more of a gift for us all.

Tell us about what you're working on now.

And I know you have a slide to show us.