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Deborah Becker

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
221 total appearances

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Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Yeah.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

How long have you been here?

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Almost seven months now.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Yeah.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Now, this is Michael, a 20-year-old man who was taking a break from his work in the dining hall when I met him.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

He asked that we refer to him by Michael, which is his middle name, because of the stigma associated with substance use.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

He had been struggling for a few years, and his dad heard about San Patrignano and urged him to apply.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Well, he told me he had been to various programs in the U.S., but he said he needed something like Sanpa, as they call it, that would give him structure for a longer period of time.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

In the U.S., the model is very different.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

It tends to revolve around what insurance is willing to pay for.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And generally, for someone who needs inpatient residential help, most often insurers will pay for only about 28 days.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Right.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Right.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

If someone qualifies for residential treatment paid for by health insurance, they typically have a significant addiction.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

So first they would go to detox to get through withdrawal and then about 28 days of residential treatment.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

That typically involves psychotherapy and 12-step meetings.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Some research suggests that people's brains need much longer than that to rewire.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

I spoke with John Kelly, who's the founder and director of the Recovery Research Institute at Mass General Hospital in Boston, about this.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And he says recovery from substance use really takes a while.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

So Aisha, when many people leave after the 28 days, they go back to their lives and there is a high rate of relapse.