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Deborah Becker

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
221 total appearances

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Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Well, you should expect to stay about three years.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And it's tough.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

You're in the middle of nowhere.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Right away, you're assigned to someone who stays with you 24 hours a day.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

This person's called a socio or guardian angel.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And this partner really is another resident who has been and still is in the program.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And then you're assigned a job.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

There's a strict work schedule, six days a week.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

You're always with your group of residents and former residents talking about your life, why you want to be drug-free, and then you gain privileges and more independence as you progress.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Well, the community really is considered the treatment.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

There's no AA meetings.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

One resident told me that all he knew about AA was what he saw in movies from the US.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Some of the principles of AA, like connecting with others and discovering a purpose, are a focus.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

There is very minimal traditional therapy, only if it's necessary.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And these types of communities generally see addiction as a symptom of someone's deeper pain.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Also, at San Patrignano, addiction medications are not used.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Medication for opioid use disorder is considered the first line of treatment in the U.S., but San Patrignano's medical director, Dr. Antonio Bischini, who's also a former resident, says he does not support using meds.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And so to address this soul disease, as he calls it, San Patrignano tries to create an almost family-type culture, and the meals are the main gathering times.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And Aisha, I went into the massive dining hall at lunchtime when I was there, and residents assigned to the kitchen were spooning out food and filling water glasses.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Here's resident Valerio Baratti.