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Deborah Becker

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Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And so I thought, okay, this is a way to get help and to help myself.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

So the follow-up is a big part of the program.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Some former residents become what are called responsibles, and they help oversee and run many of the enterprises.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

I met some of them.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

They live in these small houses on the campus with their families.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Also, some big businesses who help pay for the training at San Patrignano use it almost like an apprentice program, and they might hire residents for jobs once they leave.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

So there is a real focus on training for future employment.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Again, tough to measure.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Researchers at the University of Bologna found that if someone completes the program, which means staying until San Patrignano says you're ready to leave, more than 70% were drug-free three years later.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Right, right.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

I met one man who left after just two weeks.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

He said San Patrignano was too focused on getting residents to do the work.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

He said he needed time to reflect, and he felt like he was being used as cheap labor.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Also, addiction researcher and author Maya Salovitzβ€”not a fan of San Patrignanoβ€”

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

She has studied therapeutic communities, and she says most do not have the oversight they need to prevent the exploitation of vulnerable residents.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Salovitz has concerns, for example, about the mandatory work requirement without pay at SEMPA.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

And Salovitz also says it's not uncommon for therapeutic communities to tip into corruption with those in charge acting with unquestioned authority.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Now, San Patrignano representatives say they do have strong oversight now after a sordid past where the community nearly collapsed.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

Some of them attempted, like many times, to run away.

Up First from NPR
RFK Jr lauds Italy's addiction treatment. Can it work here?

So San Patrignano started in 1978 when Italy had a massive heroin epidemic.