Deborah Borden
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Hey, Neal.
Thank you so much for having me and giving me the chance to actually explain what culinary therapy is.
Oh, it's very funny.
But when I had my daughter, I really loved the name Liesl from The Sound of Music.
Oh, my God.
But that was out, as was Jordan for my son, because that wouldn't have worked.
So it's funny that you say that.
I always joke.
I call it cooking therapy.
But as it gets buzzed and it's starting to be included in treatment programs and mental health settings,
it's called culinary therapy.
And I just say, if I call it that, I have to charge you more.
It just sounds fancy.
But it's really the same thing.
And it's an experiential therapy like, um, art therapy or music, by the way, I've done them all.
And everyone always says, well, which one do you like best?
I've done equine, um, sand play therapy.
I've even done surf therapy.
Well, full disclosure, I watched surf therapy.
I didn't actually, but, um, the best thing about cooking therapy is it's available.