Deborah Borden

I hate that word.

They,

They just were not used to sharing their feelings or even thinking about how they felt.

And then we started cooking side by side.

And by the way, I don't know if you know this, but some of the great leaders in our country believe in walking meetings and not being in that dyad.

because they feel even colleagues and employees are more solution-focused and creative.

I didn't know that, but I love that.

Isn't that cool?

Yeah, I love that.

So Steve Jobs would walk.

Whenever they had a problem, he'd take them all and they'd walk and talk.

And Harry Truman as well.

But anyway, so we're working together.

first of all, the metaphors just started coming out, you know, I'd say, well, okay, we have to stir this till it thickens and they would not have patience.

So it would give me the opportunity to talk about what happens if you rush it and you don't wait.

Um, or if, you know, things like, um, bring to a simmer, not a boil, um, because that you're right.

And with these kids, very reactive,

So let it chill, let it rest.

They just started, you know, it's sort of like it grabbed me.

And I realized that there really was a modality here.