Deborah Roberts

You're out there with her, having her tell the story. Give us a little bit of a sense behind the scenes when you're doing that interview with her. Are you nervous about falling through while you're doing it, or were you perfectly comfortable, and did you just do the interview without thinking about it?

You're out there with her, having her tell the story. Give us a little bit of a sense behind the scenes when you're doing that interview with her. Are you nervous about falling through while you're doing it, or were you perfectly comfortable, and did you just do the interview without thinking about it?

Did you catch anything? No. No, of course not.

Did you catch anything? No. No, of course not.

But, you know, I'm always struck by the fact that people are willing to take us out into their lives and to do these kinds of things. And you specifically probably wanted to be out there on the ice with her because that's – That factored into the story.

But, you know, I'm always struck by the fact that people are willing to take us out into their lives and to do these kinds of things. And you specifically probably wanted to be out there on the ice with her because that's – That factored into the story.

I am always struck by the police officers in these stories, and they are just the unsung heroes many times, particularly in small towns where maybe they don't necessarily always have the experience of investigating big murders. Maybe they don't happen there.

I am always struck by the police officers in these stories, and they are just the unsung heroes many times, particularly in small towns where maybe they don't necessarily always have the experience of investigating big murders. Maybe they don't happen there.

And so in this particular case, a big part of the story was that dogged detective work that was done by Jeremy Kopp of the Gallatin County Sheriff's Office, you mentioned, and Dustin Lensing of the Belgrade Police Department. What about the two of them in trying to put this together? And I'm guessing this is probably maybe the biggest case they had had to try to solve.

And so in this particular case, a big part of the story was that dogged detective work that was done by Jeremy Kopp of the Gallatin County Sheriff's Office, you mentioned, and Dustin Lensing of the Belgrade Police Department. What about the two of them in trying to put this together? And I'm guessing this is probably maybe the biggest case they had had to try to solve.

Yeah. And they know to go to family right away to look at the family members. And certainly when they learn that somebody has been in the throes of a divorce, as Lauren had. So obviously they kind of knew where to swoop in. This case you talk about in the piece had a big impact on these two officers. And it happens all the time.

Yeah. And they know to go to family right away to look at the family members. And certainly when they learn that somebody has been in the throes of a divorce, as Lauren had. So obviously they kind of knew where to swoop in. This case you talk about in the piece had a big impact on these two officers. And it happens all the time.

I've noticed that, too, when I've been out interviewing small town cops. Here's an extended clip from the interview with Jeremy Kopp and Dustin Langsing that gets at that. Let's take a listen.

I've noticed that, too, when I've been out interviewing small town cops. Here's an extended clip from the interview with Jeremy Kopp and Dustin Langsing that gets at that. Let's take a listen.

Yeah, something like this. You know, just hearing those guys, and I've heard it so often when I've interviewed officers, you know, we think that they just go out and they just do their job and we see them, these visions of them, you know, in our pieces. But these are real people, and particularly in communities like this, and they take this stuff to heart.

Yeah, something like this. You know, just hearing those guys, and I've heard it so often when I've interviewed officers, you know, we think that they just go out and they just do their job and we see them, these visions of them, you know, in our pieces. But these are real people, and particularly in communities like this, and they take this stuff to heart.

And I've had officers tear up when talking about this, and you can hear the emotion in their voices. They did in this story, too.

And I've had officers tear up when talking about this, and you can hear the emotion in their voices. They did in this story, too.

Before we even get to that, because I want to... You've touched on so much. John, you're the classic reporter. You get it all in there. But I want to talk about Paul DeWise first, because... I mean, not only did he kill his wife and try to kill Ashley, he shot her, but he involved his teen children. It's unfathomable.

Before we even get to that, because I want to... You've touched on so much. John, you're the classic reporter. You get it all in there. But I want to talk about Paul DeWise first, because... I mean, not only did he kill his wife and try to kill Ashley, he shot her, but he involved his teen children. It's unfathomable.