Deborah Roberts

Let's talk first before we get into the story, though, when you talked about the freezing cold and the temperatures.

And this podcast is an opportunity for people to sort of.

learn a little bit more about what we do pull back the curtain as it were and you like me I mean you you pack your bags and you are gone sometimes like in an instant um I always make sure I've got like sneakers and maybe even a jacket I mean Bismarck is a whole different story but you know when you're talking about having your to-go bag ready and and doing things that you might not necessarily be doing normally what what's always key for you

I can imagine.

Your team had a little bit of a snafu.

The car broke down at one point, and then you got frostbite.

A valuable lesson to you.

Let's wear the hats.

Yeah, oh my gosh.

Well, you know, these are the things that we parachute into when we go to these towns in Bismarck.

So we're going to get to the murder case in just a second.

But tell me a little bit about the community, because it's always interesting to know something about these communities that we report in.

And we don't go to North Dakota a whole lot for our stories.

I've been to Florida and South Carolina and Texas and all the typical places, but not North Dakota.

Yeah, which is why this case was so surprising.

Well, John, it's always great to hear about the behind the scenes, but I want to dig into the reporting here and also how a four-legged detective helped solve this case.

So don't go anywhere, folks.

John and I will be right back.

We are back now with my friend and colleague, John Quinones, talking about his recent report for 2020 called The Last Strike.

Let's talk about this episode, John.