Deborah Roberts

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You're going to want to hear more.

I'm back now with John Quinones on this story that he just reported on, the last strike about the death of a Bismarck, North Dakota man, the Insull, Chad Insull murder case.

John, this was one, like all these stories that we cover, you know, I always feel kind of redundant when I say lots of twists and turns, but that's what makes it such a compelling story for us.

At the center of your report, you interviewed Nikki Insull, the wife of the murdered man,

who ultimately was found guilty in his murder.

She had been having an affair and she wanted him out of the picture.

You spoke with her as she was awaiting sentencing.

And why do you think she was motivated to sit down?

How hard was it to do this?

That you were trustworthy.

What did you make of her, John?

Yeah.

You know, we sometimes get gut feelings, I think, like anybody else.

And sometimes we can tell when we're being manipulated.

And then there are times when, you know, we walk away thinking, huh, I don't know, maybe.

But you felt pretty convinced.

That's a little suspect.

Yeah, she actually acknowledged, too, that her story had changed a lot.

You're absolutely right.