Deborah Roberts

So he was charged with trafficking and racketeering and a number of charges that sort of almost were like, as you said, narrower than what we saw.

So talk about what we saw because we didn't see it.

You saw it.

We only could see sketches.

But you saw some of his associates, his assistant who testified.

Of course, Cassie Ventura was the star witness, this woman who had been his girlfriend, kind of a protege, a singer, but who talked about horrible abuse from him.

What was that like, Aaron, emotionally watching these folks?

Because they were very emotional from what you reported.

eight months or nine months pregnant, yes, yes.

Ah, horrific.

And credible?

As far as you could feel, you felt credibility there?

What about the overarching message that we had gotten over the years, which is that people were fearful?

This was a man who had that kind of street cred.

And you got the impression that even though you had heard rumblings over the years that Sean Combs might at some point be brought up on charges, people were afraid, right, to testify.

Yeah.

And then suddenly now they're all turning and they're all testifying.

What was his body language like?

A guy who probably did strike fear into a lot of people.

Now he's on trial and they are actually throwing all this evidence out against him.