Deborah Roberts

I mean, you know, obviously when we saw him and when you hear his voice, he sounds like a very self-possessed guy, very sharp. How did he appear when you first met him?

In the court of public opinion. Right. We're going to take a quick break. And after that, we're going to dive into the strange story of the convicted killer, Zach Hughes. So stay with us. This episode is sponsored by Get Contact. Do you remember back in the days of cell phones when the only people who had your number were friends and loved ones who were actually trying to get in touch with you?

In the court of public opinion. Right. We're going to take a quick break. And after that, we're going to dive into the strange story of the convicted killer, Zach Hughes. So stay with us. This episode is sponsored by Get Contact. Do you remember back in the days of cell phones when the only people who had your number were friends and loved ones who were actually trying to get in touch with you?

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All right, we're back with the 2020 After Show, and Eva Pilgrim is here with me with this unusual story for 2020, particularly because Zach Hughes, this enigmatic figure in this case, there was a major twist, I mean, in the courtroom with him.

All right, we're back with the 2020 After Show, and Eva Pilgrim is here with me with this unusual story for 2020, particularly because Zach Hughes, this enigmatic figure in this case, there was a major twist, I mean, in the courtroom with him.

All right, we're back with the 2020 After Show, and Eva Pilgrim is here with me with this unusual story for 2020, particularly because Zach Hughes, this enigmatic figure in this case, there was a major twist, I mean, in the courtroom with him.

So Zach was this unusual fellow. I mean, this is a classically trained musician. His dad bought him a piano when he was younger from a yard sale. He had this love of music. Talk about him a little bit and what you learned about him.

So Zach was this unusual fellow. I mean, this is a classically trained musician. His dad bought him a piano when he was younger from a yard sale. He had this love of music. Talk about him a little bit and what you learned about him.

So Zach was this unusual fellow. I mean, this is a classically trained musician. His dad bought him a piano when he was younger from a yard sale. He had this love of music. Talk about him a little bit and what you learned about him.

Well, you talked earlier about the courtroom twist, and we have that twist here where Zach implicates John Mello in his testimony on the stand. We're going to play a clip from Zach in court. He's just alleged that Mello offered him $5,000. to kill Christina.