Deborah Roberts

Yeah. And so many of these stories, Eva, and you've covered so many of them and I have, too. When you go to these places, small towns, people are saying, you know, this is so unusual. This never would have happened here. Talk to me a little bit about the flavor of the community. You talked about the Bob Jones University. This is a religious place. This is kind of small town America, right?

I agree. But compared to New York.

I agree. But compared to New York.

I agree. But compared to New York.

So now we talk about in the story and viewers who saw it, of course, were mesmerized by it. Listeners now get a chance to get updated on it. So take me into the interview room with Mello.

So now we talk about in the story and viewers who saw it, of course, were mesmerized by it. Listeners now get a chance to get updated on it. So take me into the interview room with Mello.

So now we talk about in the story and viewers who saw it, of course, were mesmerized by it. Listeners now get a chance to get updated on it. So take me into the interview room with Mello.

Well, you ultimately spoke with John Mello. Here's an extended clip from your interview with him.

Well, you ultimately spoke with John Mello. Here's an extended clip from your interview with him.

Well, you ultimately spoke with John Mello. Here's an extended clip from your interview with him.

So his tone is pretty strident there. What'd you make of his tone during the interview?

So his tone is pretty strident there. What'd you make of his tone during the interview?

So his tone is pretty strident there. What'd you make of his tone during the interview?

I mean, you know, obviously when we saw him and when you hear his voice, he sounds like a very self-possessed guy, very sharp. How did he appear when you first met him?

I mean, you know, obviously when we saw him and when you hear his voice, he sounds like a very self-possessed guy, very sharp. How did he appear when you first met him?

I mean, you know, obviously when we saw him and when you hear his voice, he sounds like a very self-possessed guy, very sharp. How did he appear when you first met him?

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