Deborah Roberts

After Robert's murder, detectives decided to wiretap Sabrina and Jonathan's phones to listen in. Let's hear a clip from the show.

Is this just a spiritual discussion or is it a roadmap to foul play? Well, police arrested Jonathan and Sabrina for the murder, but without enough evidence against her, Sabrina actually was able to walk free until that's a big until in a shocking twist. Jonathan agreed to testify against the woman who was his lover in exchange for pleading guilty to manslaughter.

Is this just a spiritual discussion or is it a roadmap to foul play? Well, police arrested Jonathan and Sabrina for the murder, but without enough evidence against her, Sabrina actually was able to walk free until that's a big until in a shocking twist. Jonathan agreed to testify against the woman who was his lover in exchange for pleading guilty to manslaughter.

And this all happened just days before the trial. Wow. It was a doozy. I reported this story with producer Gary Wynn, whom I've had the pleasure of working with for years. Gary, this is so great to have you actually in the studio to talk like this. Absolutely.

And this all happened just days before the trial. Wow. It was a doozy. I reported this story with producer Gary Wynn, whom I've had the pleasure of working with for years. Gary, this is so great to have you actually in the studio to talk like this. Absolutely.

You and I have worked together over the years.

You and I have worked together over the years.

What a story. I remember when you came to me about it, and we, you know, Joe Reed, the senior producer, was involved in it, and we were all talking about how bizarre this story was, and also the area, you know, out in this sort of remote part of California. You and I headed out to Tehachapi. I still have trouble pronouncing it, Tehachapi. Yes.

What a story. I remember when you came to me about it, and we, you know, Joe Reed, the senior producer, was involved in it, and we were all talking about how bizarre this story was, and also the area, you know, out in this sort of remote part of California. You and I headed out to Tehachapi. I still have trouble pronouncing it, Tehachapi. Yes.

And I remember driving through the Mojave Desert, and it was just so bizarre.

And I remember driving through the Mojave Desert, and it was just so bizarre.

All these little behind the scenes moments.

All these little behind the scenes moments.

But then I show up.

But then I show up.

The sun came out. Yeah, you know, people often ask about how we, you know, shot our stories and what it was like on the ground. And it is sort of interesting. I mean, obviously, we're reporting on these very intense and tragic stories. But those little moments like your flood in the hotel and us, you know, and my driving there.

The sun came out. Yeah, you know, people often ask about how we, you know, shot our stories and what it was like on the ground. And it is sort of interesting. I mean, obviously, we're reporting on these very intense and tragic stories. But those little moments like your flood in the hotel and us, you know, and my driving there.

And, you know, literally, it looked like a moonscape when I was out there, you know, and you and I laughed a little bit about that. But This is a story that had mystery, infidelity, religion. I mean, it was one of those classics that almost felt like a TV show, right? You've got a couple who seem to have like that great marriage. But, you know, there were challenges in trying to report this, too.

And, you know, literally, it looked like a moonscape when I was out there, you know, and you and I laughed a little bit about that. But This is a story that had mystery, infidelity, religion. I mean, it was one of those classics that almost felt like a TV show, right? You've got a couple who seem to have like that great marriage. But, you know, there were challenges in trying to report this, too.

I mean, the crime took place in an industrial park, private property. You know, people don't realize what we have to go through to kind of get these things going.