Deborah Roberts

So let's talk about Robert Limon, because he was a very well-loved guy. He was a devoted dad from everything that we heard. And the night that he died, his daughter was calling him because she wanted to talk to him about the first day of school, the next day. But of course, when somebody dies, they're very much of an offstage character.

So you have to work a little harder to paint a picture of who they are. And you went out of the way to find people who knew him to paint a nice picture of who this guy was as a dad and a husband.

So you have to work a little harder to paint a picture of who they are. And you went out of the way to find people who knew him to paint a nice picture of who this guy was as a dad and a husband.

Yeah. You know, those are the things I think that our viewers and then, of course, here are listeners really gravitate to because. These are people, you know, we do these stories and yes, they're crime stories, but these are real people. And I remember our producer, our executive producer was really touched by the football coach.

Yeah. You know, those are the things I think that our viewers and then, of course, here are listeners really gravitate to because. These are people, you know, we do these stories and yes, they're crime stories, but these are real people. And I remember our producer, our executive producer was really touched by the football coach.

And that was a little element that we found that we just thought would shed light because this is somebody that this guy knew long ago, but it told you a little bit about who they are. And somebody said to me the other day, one of the things they find so interesting about these stories of true crime is that

And that was a little element that we found that we just thought would shed light because this is somebody that this guy knew long ago, but it told you a little bit about who they are. And somebody said to me the other day, one of the things they find so interesting about these stories of true crime is that

Not the crime itself, but who the people were and how they got to that point, whether it's the victim or whether it might be the perpetrator. And the same thing with Sabrina Limon, too, just trying to get to know her. And, you know, we did, I think, a good job of painting that picture of her, too, as a person.

Not the crime itself, but who the people were and how they got to that point, whether it's the victim or whether it might be the perpetrator. And the same thing with Sabrina Limon, too, just trying to get to know her. And, you know, we did, I think, a good job of painting that picture of her, too, as a person.

Yeah, her son. Yeah, the human touch, I think, is what's so important. And that's what you and our producers do so well. And Gary, you did such a great job on the story.

Yeah, her son. Yeah, the human touch, I think, is what's so important. And that's what you and our producers do so well. And Gary, you did such a great job on the story.

We're going to do more of it, you and I. And as for Sabrina Limon, her federal petition challenging her convictions was denied, so she's still in prison. We'll do a follow-up, I'm sure, on this at some point.

We're going to do more of it, you and I. And as for Sabrina Limon, her federal petition challenging her convictions was denied, so she's still in prison. We'll do a follow-up, I'm sure, on this at some point.

Well, Gary, thank you so much for coming in. This is so rare that we actually get a chance to take a moment and breathe.

Well, Gary, thank you so much for coming in. This is so rare that we actually get a chance to take a moment and breathe.

And talk about these stories that we cover, but it's always a pleasure to work with you.

And talk about these stories that we cover, but it's always a pleasure to work with you.

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