Deborah Roberts

And they're thinking, yeah, we've been there and done that and seen that.

And, you know, and understandably, because they've had no answers.

And it is sort of remarkable.

that they would hang in there and keep trying to see change.

You're bringing a fresh set of eyes, the two of you, and a lot of the stories that we've covered on 2020 turn on that.

Somebody new who has come into office who suddenly sees something a little different, maybe looking at the same evidence everybody else has, but sees it differently.

What struck you two when you began to look?

I mean, again, as you said, the DNA evidence was not compelling in terms of not having anybody to connect it to.

So what evidence really struck you?

You looked at an old shell casing and then there's something called the NIBIN system that you utilized in the case.

Okay, so you're looking at all of this and now you've, you know, you're sort of onto something that's a little bit more modern in terms of the way you can look at this evidence.

And then in summer of 2025, you get a phone call that changes everything.

A match all the way in South Carolina.

Which is exactly what had happened with the yogurt shop murders.

But meanwhile, you know something is happening.

Something is percolating here, which is so amazing when you think about it.

It's all about trying and trying and trying again, and you just actually happen to hit pay dirt.

Well, then ultimately you hear the name Robert Brashears.

And you Google and you start looking and what are you learning about this guy?

Because you talk about the one crime and now suddenly you're going to be looking at a lot of other crimes.