Deborah Treisman

Well, let's talk about that because I was 16 about six or seven years after Kara.

And so I inherited a bit of that era in my attitudes.

But this is not a story that would be set today.

You know, we're much older.

less open to hearing about 16-year-old girls' sexuality at this point.

If you were setting a story right now in which a 19-year-old takes a 16-year-old girl across state lines for sexual purposes, you would be sending the police.

And he could actually go to prison for that.

So it's kind of fascinating to read it from the perspective of Kara's grown daughters, you know, who see sex in such a so much more negative light.

That's true.

But I also, I wonder, you know, about the counterpoint to that.

Because if you look at some of the language that's used, well, first of all, in the second ride, the truck driver or the van driver is, you know, sticking his finger into a hole in her jeans.

And she does say she had endured quite a lot by the time he let us off near Pennsylvania.

And she does say that she thought it was her responsibility to be polite and friendly and not object to this.

Yeah.

And then the next sexual act is Brody pounding and pounding and putting welts on her back.

And she refers to herself as battered and wonders, you know, it was not what she was looking for.

It was more than she wanted.

And that's the expression she uses.

Yeah.

And then the next time he's, you know, stripping her in front of his friend.