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Deborah Treisman

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321 total appearances

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The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

We start in the KGB policeman's eyes.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

But there's a tone in the narration that is almost evidence of a character speaking.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Do you know what I mean?

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Yeah.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

There's someone there with a sense of humor who's using exclamation marks and pointing out things that are funny or interesting apart from what we see through Boris Ivanovich's eyes and so on.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Do you think that that is Ulitskaya herself, or do you think that she has in mind a person telling this story?

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Yeah.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Why do you think she starts us off in the mind of Popov?

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

So you start the story and you sort of feel like, oh, we're in a police story, procedural in a sense.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Here they are knocking on the door.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

They're about to search the apartment.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And then it becomes something quite different.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Well, so we have this, you know, almost comic scene with the KGB and his KGB captain and his stooges, as you said.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And then off goes Boris kind of scurrying out the back door and plowing through puddles and gets himself out and free.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And then we're plunged into a completely different world.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

He's out in rural Russia, which is new to him as well.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And I feel like the story at that moment becomes a different story in a way.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

I mean, it's amazing in the moment, you know, after the captain leaves and they're writing on pieces of paper to communicate and so on.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

The only person in that scene who seems afraid is Boris's wife.