Debra Kamen

I'm Debra Kamen.

I'm an investigative reporter at The New York Times.

What I do is I look at the people running the real estate industry, who for so many years have been relatively invisible.

And the more that I look into it, the more that I find there are people in the real estate industry operating unethically.

And their unethical behavior affects every single American.

At The New York Times, we're always looking a little bit deeper to help readers better understand the world.

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I'm Debra Kamen.

I'm an investigative reporter at The New York Times.

This one time, I was working on a particularly difficult investigation of the bad behavior in the real estate industry.

I was in a meeting with my editor, and she said, Debra, why is your face so white?

And I just told her the truth.

I said, you know, this story is really hard.

And she looked at me and said, that's what we do.

I think about that all the time.

At The New York Times, I have never encountered someone who said to me, that's too ambitious or that story is too hard.

It's the contrary.

I am told you need to dig deeper.