Debra Roberts

He knew how to speak to her in a way that just made her sort of butter in his hands.

We talked about how the relationship was a short-lived romance, but what wasn't completely clear is was she just sort of blinded by love or was it after a while?

Because there was evidence.

There were emails between them.

She was starting to get anxious about her financial situation, and that was revealed in our report.

In fact, she even writes, I don't know how I allowed myself to get into this mess that I'm in.

I just want out of the whole situation.

So was she blinded by love or was it just she got in so deep and it was hard for her to try to dig out?

Get out of the house.

Yeah.

In fact, she wrote, I am committed to doing what I can do so that we can both be successful and happy.

Keep it between us.

And also, too, there's that embarrassment factor, too.

I think people get a point where if you are somebody who's very well regarded and accomplished and you should know better after a certain point, even if you do know better, it's embarrassing to let friends and family know that you're caught up in this kind of thing.

Women were particularly vulnerable.

The psychology of it all.

We're going to talk more about that with Pat Alama.

Don't go anywhere.

Welcome back to 2020 The After Show.

I am talking with our contributor Pat LaLama about this riveting story we just reported on 2020 about the case of Sue Markham, an esteemed professor at American University who was found dead in her basement.