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Declan Walsh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
170 total appearances

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Yeah, very closely tied to the Kremlin.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Now known in some other places as Africa Corps, but in this part of the world, they still call it Wagner.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

And so Wagner was working with the RSF before the war, helping to extract the gold from some of these areas or to secure the gold as they transported it out of the country.

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

A lot of it seems to have ended up ultimately in Moscow.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

And in the war itself,

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Our reporting indicated that Wagner or the Russian mercenaries have continued to work with the RSF in parts of Darfur, particularly in this extremely remote area called Songo, where you've got dozens of these small gold mines dotted around the terrain, where people are mining for gold, but also there is a central location

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

where what they call the tailings, that's the sort of the waste from the initial pass on the gold, is processed.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

And that provides an entirely new process for extracting gold that is almost entirely in the hands of the RSF and their Russian partners.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Sudan's military is also deeply dependent on gold.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

It's a somewhat different structure on the other side of the country.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Over there in the eastern and northern Sudan, there are a handful of these large industrial-style mines.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

And in fact, production of gold, according to the official figures, has now ramped up to the point where more gold is being extracted over there than ever before, even during the relative peace before the war started.

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

So the military controls or has a stake in several of these huge mines.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

And the military, like the RSF, runs some of these mines in association with foreign players, including some Russian business people.

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Correct.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Correct.

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

Well, we found that nearly all of this gold, which has funded so much of the fighting and created so much misery and destruction in the country, goes to a single destination.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

And that's a country that has a deep interest in the war and could be the solution to ending it.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

It's really hard to trace gold.

The Daily
The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

You know, it can be melted down, it can be mixed with gold from other places.