Deepika Chopra

And I showed her the medication that I found.

I said, the pharmacist said it was equivalent and she had never seen it.

And so there was a level in this too.

That was wow.

There's so much advocacy.

in healthcare.

And I always knew it for myself, but I really understood it being the caretaker and advocate for my child.

It really was something that there wasn't, number one, this disease is so rare.

They told us two in a million and chalked to bad luck.

But even within that, and even diseases that are known, I think there's just so much effort and

education and advocacy that you have to navigate through and be willing to do in healthcare.

And that I think is a piece of this that made something already so difficult, even more difficult.

So first of all, I always love to preface this with

I'm known as the optimism doctor, and this is truly what I'm so passionate about, but I am not the most optimistic person myself.

And I know there's a lot to unpack there.

I know the tools, I know the data.

I feel like this is my calling and I feel really good at what I do, especially for other people.

But I am just trying to work on and work through the tools in my everyday life, just the same as everyone else.

And although there is a genetic component to being optimistic, it's actually so much smaller than we ever imagined.

And most of it is learned.