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Yeah, no, exactly.
Yeah, no, exactly.
Oh my gosh, why?
Oh my gosh, why?
I don't understand what it's doing, though.
I don't understand what it's doing, though.
Oh, my gosh. What is its purpose?
Oh, my gosh. What is its purpose?
True.
True.
They didn't.
They didn't.
Wow.
Wow.
What's powering each other?
What's powering each other?
Somebody commented, when the last gear makes one full rotation, Half-Life 4 will be released. I don't know what that is. It sounds like a video game, but it's a funny concept. Anyway, that's wild.
Somebody commented, when the last gear makes one full rotation, Half-Life 4 will be released. I don't know what that is. It sounds like a video game, but it's a funny concept. Anyway, that's wild.
Again, it just seems like an art piece.
Again, it just seems like an art piece.
Did you used to have those fights where it's like, well, I'm infinity smart. They'd be like, well, I'm Google smart.
Did you used to have those fights where it's like, well, I'm infinity smart. They'd be like, well, I'm Google smart.
Okay, now the conversation's over.
Okay, now the conversation's over.
Pardon?
Pardon?
I have a license.
I have a license.
I thought they were putting somebody in a chamber.
I thought they were putting somebody in a chamber.
We do that now.
We do that now.
The girl said, thank you, Mr. Raj, for our driver's license.
The girl said, thank you, Mr. Raj, for our driver's license.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
Mr. Raj at the DMV.
Mr. Raj at the DMV.
And the cloud. Electron cloud.
And the cloud. Electron cloud.
Another thing.
Another thing.
Vulture. Bird. It's a vulture because it picks the meat off the dead that it creates.
Vulture. Bird. It's a vulture because it picks the meat off the dead that it creates.
Super dark. I would love to be in a creative meeting for this one.
Super dark. I would love to be in a creative meeting for this one.
What the?
What the?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, why are we letting AI do all this stuff? I guess it's because we want to save human lives, but...
Yeah, why are we letting AI do all this stuff? I guess it's because we want to save human lives, but...
So you don't use a satellite and do it like that?
So you don't use a satellite and do it like that?
You guys are so silly today.
You guys are so silly today.
Good girl.
Good girl.
Plasma?
Plasma?
Like human plasma?
Like human plasma?
Plasma is neither a liquid nor a gas.
Plasma is neither a liquid nor a gas.
Yeah, that's so crazy. I totally made one of those.
Yeah, that's so crazy. I totally made one of those.
Wow.
Wow.
I was going to say, it looks like a design I made on one of those tools, the toys they put out on the ads where it spins a piece of paper and you have your pen, you hold it still. I made that before.
I was going to say, it looks like a design I made on one of those tools, the toys they put out on the ads where it spins a piece of paper and you have your pen, you hold it still. I made that before.
The world is our oyster.
The world is our oyster.
Curry?
Curry?
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
What happened to him?
What happened to him?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
1.17.
1.17.
Stroke of luck. I had a suspicion. Different strokes.
Stroke of luck. I had a suspicion. Different strokes.
It's gravy.
It's gravy.
This is a lot like what my dreams are like. Is it a gravy baptism? What?
This is a lot like what my dreams are like. Is it a gravy baptism? What?
Yeah, all the cults are like, really?
Yeah, all the cults are like, really?
She likes to hoard things in bags. That's where she put my engagement ring.
She likes to hoard things in bags. That's where she put my engagement ring.
I love KFC.
I love KFC.
People, I think we have dark meat.
People, I think we have dark meat.
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
For sleeping. Interesting.
For sleeping. Interesting.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
I don't like to. It's a sensory thing.
I don't like to. It's a sensory thing.
No.
No.
Yeah, it was like the first death happened.
Yeah, it was like the first death happened.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Anyway, but with that story, though.
Anyway, but with that story, though.
Yep. The car alarm goes off because it was locked. I try to open the car. The car alarm goes off. I go, um, Josh? He says, uh, yes? Because it's just like, meh, meh.
Yep. The car alarm goes off because it was locked. I try to open the car. The car alarm goes off. I go, um, Josh? He says, uh, yes? Because it's just like, meh, meh.
For herself.
For herself.
And she said, I so cannot wait to wear goggles and jump into the waves like an invincible mermaid.
And she said, I so cannot wait to wear goggles and jump into the waves like an invincible mermaid.
I know.
I know.
I know. I can't wait. I'm so excited.
I know. I can't wait. I'm so excited.
Two nights.
Two nights.
It's going to be outrageously fun. And I just found, because we were going to have the first night just hang out, like sleepover style. Maybe there's a pillow fight. But I found a live event. There's a concert happening. Wow. Who is it? Some local band.
It's going to be outrageously fun. And I just found, because we were going to have the first night just hang out, like sleepover style. Maybe there's a pillow fight. But I found a live event. There's a concert happening. Wow. Who is it? Some local band.
Cut it out. You guys go do fun stuff all the time.
Cut it out. You guys go do fun stuff all the time.
Camping, fishing.
Camping, fishing.
You go on your trips. That's work. You guys have fun with each other.
You go on your trips. That's work. You guys have fun with each other.
Isn't that wild?
Isn't that wild?
Of course I know that. Of course. You fool.
Of course I know that. Of course. You fool.
Did that really happen or you made that up?
Did that really happen or you made that up?
Oh, that's horrible.
Oh, that's horrible.
Just being for surfers? Because they were surfers.
Just being for surfers? Because they were surfers.
What's purple in this world?
What's purple in this world?
Aurora Borealis.
Aurora Borealis.
Is there a lot of amethyst in Asheville?
Is there a lot of amethyst in Asheville?
Amethyst.
Amethyst.
It's a purple rock.
It's a purple rock.
Watch it.
Watch it.
What else is purple?
What else is purple?
We're doing a parasite class.
We're doing a parasite class.
Yeah, she texted me about it.
Yeah, she texted me about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not the only car problem we had this week.
That's not the only car problem we had this week.
I blew my tire in a popcah.
I blew my tire in a popcah.
What do we do in America?
What do we do in America?
I hit a pothole. But, you know, something to note, I could have done it by myself.
I hit a pothole. But, you know, something to note, I could have done it by myself.
Yeah. But I really appreciate Josh's help. He was our hero.
Yeah. But I really appreciate Josh's help. He was our hero.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm on 28.
I'm on 28.
This is nice. Oh, my gosh.
This is nice. Oh, my gosh.
Oh, it's happened a lot.
Oh, it's happened a lot.
That's horrible. That's horrible.
That's horrible. That's horrible.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Look at this video.
Look at this video.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, true.
Doing my dishes.
Doing my dishes.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Wow, look at that. Look at him breakdancing. That's cool.
Wow, look at that. Look at him breakdancing. That's cool.
Less, yeah.
Less, yeah.
No.
No.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
I think that they found stuff underneath it.
I think that they found stuff underneath it.
Why?
Why?
Living quarters. A pool?
Living quarters. A pool?
A pool?
A pool?
Yeah, he showed me that trick.
Yeah, he showed me that trick.
Do you guys know what that means?
Do you guys know what that means?
Wait, so it's not like our George Washington monument?
Wait, so it's not like our George Washington monument?
It's like a cover's under the ground.
It's like a cover's under the ground.
Columns!
Columns!
With stairs, they think?
With stairs, they think?
For energy!
For energy!
Correct. So like, what does a peer review in that case look like? Like another country has to come in and do the same analysis?
Correct. So like, what does a peer review in that case look like? Like another country has to come in and do the same analysis?
Is it what Andrew was just showing me? Yeah. It's nuts, man. What the heck?
Is it what Andrew was just showing me? Yeah. It's nuts, man. What the heck?
Yeah Bring some energy into this I mean someone's got to You guys have crazy energy today I don't know what's going on with you two You guys are so weird today It's just a good day Good day above the ground am I right?
Yeah Bring some energy into this I mean someone's got to You guys have crazy energy today I don't know what's going on with you two You guys are so weird today It's just a good day Good day above the ground am I right?
So this is the it's the pyramid that I'm seeing. And then what are these structures that that's a limestone you guys are talking about?
So this is the it's the pyramid that I'm seeing. And then what are these structures that that's a limestone you guys are talking about?
What's this underneath water? Is that the water table?
What's this underneath water? Is that the water table?
I don't have TikTok.
I don't have TikTok.
No.
No.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay, stop.
Okay, stop.
That's crazy. We literally know nothing with this little fledgling people group. We know nothing.
That's crazy. We literally know nothing with this little fledgling people group. We know nothing.
They seem that bitter, don't they?
They seem that bitter, don't they?
Wow.
Wow.
That is nuts.
That is nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yay!
Yay!
Did you see Ray Fieng give his sign-off on it? He's like, yeah, they said, you know, our Cillian Murphy, it was an Irish person who was interviewing, and he said, you know, our Cillian Murphy is in line to play your role as Voldemort. And he said, oh, I think he'll do absolutely great. He's an amazing actor.
Did you see Ray Fieng give his sign-off on it? He's like, yeah, they said, you know, our Cillian Murphy, it was an Irish person who was interviewing, and he said, you know, our Cillian Murphy is in line to play your role as Voldemort. And he said, oh, I think he'll do absolutely great. He's an amazing actor.
I'll tell you something. But he does a Thomas Shelby voice. That would be crazy.
I'll tell you something. But he does a Thomas Shelby voice. That would be crazy.
It reminds me of the basement yard where they're like, he looks like he'd have a tail. Why is his face so tight? It's so tight.
It reminds me of the basement yard where they're like, he looks like he'd have a tail. Why is his face so tight? It's so tight.
But yeah, and then, but he also gave a funny, in that same interview, he's like, isn't it silly how these studios always think that we need to remake something that was like perfectly fine.
But yeah, and then, but he also gave a funny, in that same interview, he's like, isn't it silly how these studios always think that we need to remake something that was like perfectly fine.
Perfectly fine.
Perfectly fine.
Good job. What are you Russian?
Good job. What are you Russian?
It's kaput.
It's kaput.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do they get oxygen up there?
How do they get oxygen up there?
What if there's oxygen in space and they're not telling us? It's this big secret. We can live in space. We can live in space.
What if there's oxygen in space and they're not telling us? It's this big secret. We can live in space. We can live in space.
What the heck? New conspiracy. Space is habitable. Have you ever met people? I have a friend that literally says she doesn't believe in space. That space isn't real.
What the heck? New conspiracy. Space is habitable. Have you ever met people? I have a friend that literally says she doesn't believe in space. That space isn't real.
Really? He said, I don't believe in space.
Really? He said, I don't believe in space.
Barferoni.
Barferoni.
Can you opt to only drink your pee or do you drink everyone's pee?
Can you opt to only drink your pee or do you drink everyone's pee?
Yep.
Yep.
555... Why? Why?
555... Why? Why?
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing right here.
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing right here.
I want to look on GotQuestions.
I want to look on GotQuestions.
I'm Googling.
I'm Googling.
Yeah, I guess it's about focusing your consciousness on...
Yeah, I guess it's about focusing your consciousness on...
Well, and also elevating the numbers. Like it talks about, like we know that numbers are significant in the Bible, but the Bible is our only tool and the only message from the Lord that we need. We don't need to use these numbers or anything to access him. Yeah. And numerology is an occult practice.
Well, and also elevating the numbers. Like it talks about, like we know that numbers are significant in the Bible, but the Bible is our only tool and the only message from the Lord that we need. We don't need to use these numbers or anything to access him. Yeah. And numerology is an occult practice.
That is so weird. Isn't that weird though too? How Christians have become so obsessed with
That is so weird. Isn't that weird though too? How Christians have become so obsessed with
Identity. Yeah. Where are you finding your identity? Oh, this is me. I'm this.
Identity. Yeah. Where are you finding your identity? Oh, this is me. I'm this.
Do you know what it reminds me of is Nosferatu.
Do you know what it reminds me of is Nosferatu.
When she's out there and she's like calling, summoning something to her and that's what happens.
When she's out there and she's like calling, summoning something to her and that's what happens.
Nosferatu. Spongebob's crazy.
Nosferatu. Spongebob's crazy.
It's also crazy.
It's also crazy.
Wow. I thought that was great. Yeah, it was great. It's kind of gross.
Wow. I thought that was great. Yeah, it was great. It's kind of gross.
Ada's been trying to do that, too, and she's like, I'm like, daddy. She's pretty good at spitting.
Ada's been trying to do that, too, and she's like, I'm like, daddy. She's pretty good at spitting.
She is.
She is.
That was a song. Welcome to the show. What about the question?
That was a song. Welcome to the show. What about the question?
I didn't say anything.
I didn't say anything.
No.
No.
I didn't mean to ask about it. Sorry. Do you want to bring the question back? No.
I didn't mean to ask about it. Sorry. Do you want to bring the question back? No.
No.
No.
It was really loud.
It was really loud.
Of their sleepover?
Of their sleepover?
I cannot wait.
I cannot wait.
Invalid.
Invalid.
Was he saying evening wind as in farts?
Was he saying evening wind as in farts?
You said it was supposed to be funny and I thought it was about farts or something.
You said it was supposed to be funny and I thought it was about farts or something.
You said Thomas Jefferson.
You said Thomas Jefferson.
Yeah, no, exactly.
Oh my gosh, why?
I don't understand what it's doing, though.
Oh, my gosh. What is its purpose?
True.
They didn't.
Wow.
What's powering each other?
Somebody commented, when the last gear makes one full rotation, Half-Life 4 will be released. I don't know what that is. It sounds like a video game, but it's a funny concept. Anyway, that's wild.
Again, it just seems like an art piece.
Did you used to have those fights where it's like, well, I'm infinity smart. They'd be like, well, I'm Google smart.
Okay, now the conversation's over.
Pardon?
I have a license.
I thought they were putting somebody in a chamber.
We do that now.
The girl said, thank you, Mr. Raj, for our driver's license.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Mr. Raj at the DMV.
And the cloud. Electron cloud.
Another thing.
Vulture. Bird. It's a vulture because it picks the meat off the dead that it creates.
Super dark. I would love to be in a creative meeting for this one.
What the?
Thank you.
Yeah, why are we letting AI do all this stuff? I guess it's because we want to save human lives, but...
So you don't use a satellite and do it like that?
You guys are so silly today.
Good girl.
Plasma?
Like human plasma?
Plasma is neither a liquid nor a gas.
Yeah, that's so crazy. I totally made one of those.
Wow.
I was going to say, it looks like a design I made on one of those tools, the toys they put out on the ads where it spins a piece of paper and you have your pen, you hold it still. I made that before.
The world is our oyster.
Curry?
Oh, no.
What happened to him?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
1.17.
Stroke of luck. I had a suspicion. Different strokes.
It's gravy.
This is a lot like what my dreams are like. Is it a gravy baptism? What?
Yeah, all the cults are like, really?
She likes to hoard things in bags. That's where she put my engagement ring.
I love KFC.
People, I think we have dark meat.
That's hilarious.
For sleeping. Interesting.
That's crazy.
I don't like to. It's a sensory thing.
No.
Yeah, it was like the first death happened.
Hmm.
Anyway, but with that story, though.
Yep. The car alarm goes off because it was locked. I try to open the car. The car alarm goes off. I go, um, Josh? He says, uh, yes? Because it's just like, meh, meh.
For herself.
And she said, I so cannot wait to wear goggles and jump into the waves like an invincible mermaid.
I know.
I know. I can't wait. I'm so excited.
Two nights.
It's going to be outrageously fun. And I just found, because we were going to have the first night just hang out, like sleepover style. Maybe there's a pillow fight. But I found a live event. There's a concert happening. Wow. Who is it? Some local band.
Cut it out. You guys go do fun stuff all the time.
Camping, fishing.
You go on your trips. That's work. You guys have fun with each other.
Isn't that wild?
Of course I know that. Of course. You fool.
Did that really happen or you made that up?
Oh, that's horrible.
Just being for surfers? Because they were surfers.
What's purple in this world?
Aurora Borealis.
Is there a lot of amethyst in Asheville?
Amethyst.
It's a purple rock.
Watch it.
What else is purple?
We're doing a parasite class.
Yeah, she texted me about it.
Yeah.
That's not the only car problem we had this week.
I blew my tire in a popcah.
What do we do in America?
I hit a pothole. But, you know, something to note, I could have done it by myself.
Yeah. But I really appreciate Josh's help. He was our hero.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm on 28.
This is nice. Oh, my gosh.
Oh, it's happened a lot.
That's horrible. That's horrible.
Oh, my gosh.
Look at this video.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, true.
Doing my dishes.
Oh, my gosh.
Wow, look at that. Look at him breakdancing. That's cool.
Less, yeah.
No.
I can't wait.
I think that they found stuff underneath it.
Why?
Living quarters. A pool?
A pool?
Yeah, he showed me that trick.
Do you guys know what that means?
Wait, so it's not like our George Washington monument?
It's like a cover's under the ground.
Columns!
With stairs, they think?
For energy!
Correct. So like, what does a peer review in that case look like? Like another country has to come in and do the same analysis?
Is it what Andrew was just showing me? Yeah. It's nuts, man. What the heck?
Yeah Bring some energy into this I mean someone's got to You guys have crazy energy today I don't know what's going on with you two You guys are so weird today It's just a good day Good day above the ground am I right?
So this is the it's the pyramid that I'm seeing. And then what are these structures that that's a limestone you guys are talking about?
What's this underneath water? Is that the water table?
I don't have TikTok.
No.
Oh.
Okay, stop.
That's crazy. We literally know nothing with this little fledgling people group. We know nothing.
They seem that bitter, don't they?
Wow.
That is nuts.
Yeah.
Yay!
Did you see Ray Fieng give his sign-off on it? He's like, yeah, they said, you know, our Cillian Murphy, it was an Irish person who was interviewing, and he said, you know, our Cillian Murphy is in line to play your role as Voldemort. And he said, oh, I think he'll do absolutely great. He's an amazing actor.
I'll tell you something. But he does a Thomas Shelby voice. That would be crazy.
It reminds me of the basement yard where they're like, he looks like he'd have a tail. Why is his face so tight? It's so tight.
But yeah, and then, but he also gave a funny, in that same interview, he's like, isn't it silly how these studios always think that we need to remake something that was like perfectly fine.
Perfectly fine.
Good job. What are you Russian?
It's kaput.
Yeah.
How do they get oxygen up there?
What if there's oxygen in space and they're not telling us? It's this big secret. We can live in space. We can live in space.
What the heck? New conspiracy. Space is habitable. Have you ever met people? I have a friend that literally says she doesn't believe in space. That space isn't real.
Really? He said, I don't believe in space.
Barferoni.
Can you opt to only drink your pee or do you drink everyone's pee?
Yep.
555... Why? Why?
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing right here.
I want to look on GotQuestions.
I'm Googling.
Yeah, I guess it's about focusing your consciousness on...
Well, and also elevating the numbers. Like it talks about, like we know that numbers are significant in the Bible, but the Bible is our only tool and the only message from the Lord that we need. We don't need to use these numbers or anything to access him. Yeah. And numerology is an occult practice.
That is so weird. Isn't that weird though too? How Christians have become so obsessed with
Identity. Yeah. Where are you finding your identity? Oh, this is me. I'm this.
Do you know what it reminds me of is Nosferatu.
When she's out there and she's like calling, summoning something to her and that's what happens.
Nosferatu. Spongebob's crazy.
It's also crazy.
Wow. I thought that was great. Yeah, it was great. It's kind of gross.
Ada's been trying to do that, too, and she's like, I'm like, daddy. She's pretty good at spitting.
She is.
That was a song. Welcome to the show. What about the question?
I didn't say anything.
No.
I didn't mean to ask about it. Sorry. Do you want to bring the question back? No.
No.
It was really loud.
Of their sleepover?
I cannot wait.
Invalid.
Was he saying evening wind as in farts?
You said it was supposed to be funny and I thought it was about farts or something.
You said Thomas Jefferson.
Can you remind me? Because that was such a long time ago.
Can you remind me? Because that was such a long time ago.
And that wasn't Chase?
And that wasn't Chase?
What were those things?
What were those things?
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Like you mentioned before, you and Taylor were friends for years before any of this.
Like you mentioned before, you and Taylor were friends for years before any of this.
And there clearly was a falling out.
And there clearly was a falling out.
How did the falling out really happen from your perspective? And I guess, yeah, like, how were you able to reconcile? Yeah. Or did you even reconcile before you decided to join the show?
How did the falling out really happen from your perspective? And I guess, yeah, like, how were you able to reconcile? Yeah. Or did you even reconcile before you decided to join the show?
So we are here now. So so from your perspective, there were rumors about just Taylor and her relationship amongst your community, which prompted her to want to, like, tell the whole story of the whole thing.
So we are here now. So so from your perspective, there were rumors about just Taylor and her relationship amongst your community, which prompted her to want to, like, tell the whole story of the whole thing.
But even if you did at the time, wouldn't it be understandable if you were not wanting to be around Taylor?
But even if you did at the time, wouldn't it be understandable if you were not wanting to be around Taylor?
We are very excited to talk with you. I feel like it's been a long time coming.
We are very excited to talk with you. I feel like it's been a long time coming.
So you're really, you're really stuck in the middle here.
So you're really, you're really stuck in the middle here.
How do I handle this? That's also tough when you're like, Best friend or not, if your friend's doing something that you don't agree with, that's when being a friend becomes a real challenge.
How do I handle this? That's also tough when you're like, Best friend or not, if your friend's doing something that you don't agree with, that's when being a friend becomes a real challenge.
Because being a friend... you know, hiding their secret as being a friend, holding them accountable. Like, is there a balance there? It can be very challenging.
Because being a friend... you know, hiding their secret as being a friend, holding them accountable. Like, is there a balance there? It can be very challenging.
Do you think you and Taylor are now on the same page of that timeline or events of that whole situation?
Do you think you and Taylor are now on the same page of that timeline or events of that whole situation?
If she listens to this episode, is she going to be like,
If she listens to this episode, is she going to be like,
Like what?
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I actually, when the whole swinging scandal came out on the internet, I'm pretty sure like I DM'd you on TikTok.
I actually, when the whole swinging scandal came out on the internet, I'm pretty sure like I DM'd you on TikTok.
But with the tonal gym, it's sleek. It goes up against the wall. It looks like it has a purpose. And you can do a full body workout with top notch instructors.
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So now we are embarking on season two and you are now a part of this cast. What happened and what was the timeline for you to not be a part of season one and then decide to join? Did you make first content and say, hey, I kind of want to be part of season two? Or did you get a phone call from someone saying, hey, are you sure you don't want to be a part of season two?
So now we are embarking on season two and you are now a part of this cast. What happened and what was the timeline for you to not be a part of season one and then decide to join? Did you make first content and say, hey, I kind of want to be part of season two? Or did you get a phone call from someone saying, hey, are you sure you don't want to be a part of season two?
Was part of it, I mean, there must have been a part of you that saw how big the show became and how successful it was. And certainly after season one, it still seemed like the dynamic of the group was relatively positive, minus it seemed like Whitney was kind of been on the outs from the group.
Was part of it, I mean, there must have been a part of you that saw how big the show became and how successful it was. And certainly after season one, it still seemed like the dynamic of the group was relatively positive, minus it seemed like Whitney was kind of been on the outs from the group.
It was a relatively like non-toxic environment, at least as a fan or someone who interviewed the ladies, that was my perception of it. So like as one of the OG moms of mom talk, I mean, there must have been a little of like, not resentment, but like, I don't know, like, why am I missing out on something I helped originate?
It was a relatively like non-toxic environment, at least as a fan or someone who interviewed the ladies, that was my perception of it. So like as one of the OG moms of mom talk, I mean, there must have been a little of like, not resentment, but like, I don't know, like, why am I missing out on something I helped originate?
Yeah. No, it makes a lot of sense too. And just the, You know, it's a challenge with the world that you're a part of because there's a lot of excitement, fascination, privilege that comes with being on TV, being an influencer. You know, it's a job for sure. We gripe at opportunities. It's like, oh, I got to do this.
Yeah. No, it makes a lot of sense too. And just the, You know, it's a challenge with the world that you're a part of because there's a lot of excitement, fascination, privilege that comes with being on TV, being an influencer. You know, it's a job for sure. We gripe at opportunities. It's like, oh, I got to do this.
When you compare it to real work.
When you compare it to real work.
If you've had, you know, I'm not sure about your background. I imagine you've had some real work. You know, Nally, before she got into this world with me, was an accomplished surgical technologist. I was an accountant. So when you think about that, it's like it doesn't feel like real work.
If you've had, you know, I'm not sure about your background. I imagine you've had some real work. You know, Nally, before she got into this world with me, was an accomplished surgical technologist. I was an accountant. So when you think about that, it's like it doesn't feel like real work.
And then there's a guilt associated like you have of like, well, if this thing I choose to be a part of affects my life in any way negatively, then I asked for it and I deserve it.
And then there's a guilt associated like you have of like, well, if this thing I choose to be a part of affects my life in any way negatively, then I asked for it and I deserve it.
you know, and things like that because of the privileges, you know, it's like the, am I selling out?
you know, and things like that because of the privileges, you know, it's like the, am I selling out?
What conversations do you have with Chase prior to saying yes to coming on the show?
What conversations do you have with Chase prior to saying yes to coming on the show?
Yeah. You can have you. It's like, yeah, you can be an authentic person and still have your boundaries. You know, like now and I have this show like, you know, sure. I hope that our audience thinks we're open and right and is happy with what we choose to share about our lives.
Yeah. You can have you. It's like, yeah, you can be an authentic person and still have your boundaries. You know, like now and I have this show like, you know, sure. I hope that our audience thinks we're open and right and is happy with what we choose to share about our lives.
But like we we don't share everything, nor do we feel like we need to or want to. And it comes to fan, you know, fan is is short for fanatic. And, you know, I appreciate fans, but sometimes not not all fans are the same. Every fan has different expectations.
But like we we don't share everything, nor do we feel like we need to or want to. And it comes to fan, you know, fan is is short for fanatic. And, you know, I appreciate fans, but sometimes not not all fans are the same. Every fan has different expectations.
I think the challenge with social media is that fans have this perception of this incredible access to you and you have access to them through DMs, through comments.
I think the challenge with social media is that fans have this perception of this incredible access to you and you have access to them through DMs, through comments.
And then our brains feel like, oh, well, you know, we want, again, there's that, I need to be grateful for this. This is a dream come true experience. Like, I can't lose my fans. So I have to make sure that like, I am almost in a way, acknowledging them or listening to them or, you know, it could definitely be a real...
And then our brains feel like, oh, well, you know, we want, again, there's that, I need to be grateful for this. This is a dream come true experience. Like, I can't lose my fans. So I have to make sure that like, I am almost in a way, acknowledging them or listening to them or, you know, it could definitely be a real...
Were you worried outside of Taylor? Cause you guys had your friendship fallout drama, whatever, but coming into this show, you have an established group of women that regardless of you starting mom talk, they, I guess took it over and really ran with it and had its success without the scandal.
Were you worried outside of Taylor? Cause you guys had your friendship fallout drama, whatever, but coming into this show, you have an established group of women that regardless of you starting mom talk, they, I guess took it over and really ran with it and had its success without the scandal.
You know, were you worried about being welcomed into the group?
You know, were you worried about being welcomed into the group?
Were there any women in particular that you felt more judgment from or criticism from than others?
Were there any women in particular that you felt more judgment from or criticism from than others?
Michaela and Macy seem incredibly sweet, but they also seem the most devout and conservative with their faith. And then simultaneously, just from a plan perspective, they're, in a lot of the ways seem the most judgmental.
Michaela and Macy seem incredibly sweet, but they also seem the most devout and conservative with their faith. And then simultaneously, just from a plan perspective, they're, in a lot of the ways seem the most judgmental.
Okay. But like, yeah, Michaela does seem.
Okay. But like, yeah, Michaela does seem.
Quiet and demure.
Quiet and demure.
Or you just like have it horned up enough.
Or you just like have it horned up enough.
It's just like, you know.
It's just like, you know.
One of the closest.
One of the closest.
Yeah. More experience. I mean, the frontal lobe stuff, I think is kind of more of like a. It's not like, you know, when we're 22, we can't think for ourselves and things like that. But I think more realistically, like you said, it seems to be like a lack of experience now more than ever, right?
Yeah. More experience. I mean, the frontal lobe stuff, I think is kind of more of like a. It's not like, you know, when we're 22, we can't think for ourselves and things like that. But I think more realistically, like you said, it seems to be like a lack of experience now more than ever, right?
You'll see it get messy. You'd rather not say which direction.
You'll see it get messy. You'd rather not say which direction.
You know, and I get you can't necessarily spoil him, but like in terms of what, yeah, like without maybe giving the why, I'd love to know your opinion.
You know, and I get you can't necessarily spoil him, but like in terms of what, yeah, like without maybe giving the why, I'd love to know your opinion.
I was like, we got to get you on.
I was like, we got to get you on.
Because 20, 30 years ago, before like hookup culture was what it is today, where everyone's just kind of out there and using sex positivity as a way to just kind of have sex with everybody, seemingly without consequences. Right.
Because 20, 30 years ago, before like hookup culture was what it is today, where everyone's just kind of out there and using sex positivity as a way to just kind of have sex with everybody, seemingly without consequences. Right.
So you think Jesse has been very forthcoming with everything that might be revealed in season two?
So you think Jesse has been very forthcoming with everything that might be revealed in season two?
Well, I guess, let me ask you this. Has Jessie admitted anything to you that she did something pretty like outside that, well, that shocked you?
Well, I guess, let me ask you this. Has Jessie admitted anything to you that she did something pretty like outside that, well, that shocked you?
Yeah. Okay. I guess like to add to that question, it's my perception that again, like season one, you know, as great as it was, seemed relatively like vanilla, not vanilla. I mean, hell, it was a hell of a season. It was great to watch. Um, but a lot of the drama, like Jen and Zach, you know, um,
Yeah. Okay. I guess like to add to that question, it's my perception that again, like season one, you know, as great as it was, seemed relatively like vanilla, not vanilla. I mean, hell, it was a hell of a season. It was great to watch. Um, but a lot of the drama, like Jen and Zach, you know, um,
And it followed a lot of like just the relationships or the challenges in Mormon culture with young marriages and things like that. You had, you know, Whitney kind of having a fallout with the group and Whitney kind of almost seemed like fine with it. And she was pregnant and kind of like, you know what, maybe didn't like the drama. Season two, it seems like deep.
And it followed a lot of like just the relationships or the challenges in Mormon culture with young marriages and things like that. You had, you know, Whitney kind of having a fallout with the group and Whitney kind of almost seemed like fine with it. And she was pregnant and kind of like, you know what, maybe didn't like the drama. Season two, it seems like deep.
yeah things are getting dark their friendships are being questioned yeah they're ending who in the group do you think and it can be multiple it could be zero uh has been most affected and changed as a result of the attention money fame or success that this show has brought to any of these women
yeah things are getting dark their friendships are being questioned yeah they're ending who in the group do you think and it can be multiple it could be zero uh has been most affected and changed as a result of the attention money fame or success that this show has brought to any of these women
And yet when you're still connected to a very conservative church and organization where there's still a lot of taboos around sex and a lot of suppression, regardless of what's happening in the outside world, you know, you know, you guys are still like meeting at a very young age, getting married at a very young age. You were 20. When you got married to Chase, right?
And yet when you're still connected to a very conservative church and organization where there's still a lot of taboos around sex and a lot of suppression, regardless of what's happening in the outside world, you know, you know, you guys are still like meeting at a very young age, getting married at a very young age. You were 20. When you got married to Chase, right?
Okay. Why?
Okay. Why?
When it comes to the Jesse and Demi fallout, and thank you for sharing your opinion because I know it's delicate. Right. And you want to be careful with your words. But as you pointed out, you're leaning more, I guess, Team Jesse, for lack of a better way of saying. Right.
When it comes to the Jesse and Demi fallout, and thank you for sharing your opinion because I know it's delicate. Right. And you want to be careful with your words. But as you pointed out, you're leaning more, I guess, Team Jesse, for lack of a better way of saying. Right.
are but you don't sound completely confident are you you're open to being wrong about that and kind of just do you think more might be revealed or like or do you feel like it's a lot of she said she said right now and right now you find jesse's version to be more believable but or are you pretty firm in your opinion or do you think it's possible you could be wrong
are but you don't sound completely confident are you you're open to being wrong about that and kind of just do you think more might be revealed or like or do you feel like it's a lot of she said she said right now and right now you find jesse's version to be more believable but or are you pretty firm in your opinion or do you think it's possible you could be wrong
At that point, you were.
At that point, you were.
And when you say other people involved, are you talking about Marciano?
And when you say other people involved, are you talking about Marciano?
You've had?
You've had?
So like, I got to imagine it must be difficult even in the Mormon community.
So like, I got to imagine it must be difficult even in the Mormon community.
You know, because it's not like you guys are insulated in a bubble. You know, it's not like you're not interacting with even Salt Lake City, I'm guessing, has people who aren't Mormon.
You know, because it's not like you guys are insulated in a bubble. You know, it's not like you're not interacting with even Salt Lake City, I'm guessing, has people who aren't Mormon.
And so, you know, whether it's media, you know, you get porn on the Internet, you know, you have all this access to these things while still trying to live this devout lifestyle. I can see how temptation enters into a relationship or a group of friends.
And so, you know, whether it's media, you know, you get porn on the Internet, you know, you have all this access to these things while still trying to live this devout lifestyle. I can see how temptation enters into a relationship or a group of friends.
Do you think Jen's an honest person?
Do you think Jen's an honest person?
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, that's ultimate. I mean, that, that cameras do that when Mike's, you know, it's just the stakes are heightened, but yeah, there's a big difference between. leaning in to the emotion you're feeling, which is ultimately what reality TV is, right? Like, you know, I've covered reality TV for better part of a decade. There's always this fascination with reality TV.
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, that's ultimate. I mean, that, that cameras do that when Mike's, you know, it's just the stakes are heightened, but yeah, there's a big difference between. leaning in to the emotion you're feeling, which is ultimately what reality TV is, right? Like, you know, I've covered reality TV for better part of a decade. There's always this fascination with reality TV.
And then there's always these discussions about the producer relationship they have with cast and are they making cast do things they don't want to do? My general opinion, having, you know, and I can't speak for everyone's experience and there's Plenty of bad actors in any industry.
And then there's always these discussions about the producer relationship they have with cast and are they making cast do things they don't want to do? My general opinion, having, you know, and I can't speak for everyone's experience and there's Plenty of bad actors in any industry.
But generally speaking, my opinion is like all producers are really doing is they're there to validate your most intense feelings. They're not the friend who makes you that goes, are you sure you want to do that? No. They're not reminding you of the regret you could feel for just expressing yourself in that moment. But there's a big difference between that and literally just performing a scene.
But generally speaking, my opinion is like all producers are really doing is they're there to validate your most intense feelings. They're not the friend who makes you that goes, are you sure you want to do that? No. They're not reminding you of the regret you could feel for just expressing yourself in that moment. But there's a big difference between that and literally just performing a scene.
And then ending the scene and just being like, all right, well, anyways, what's for lunch? Yes. As if you're literally acting.
And then ending the scene and just being like, all right, well, anyways, what's for lunch? Yes. As if you're literally acting.
And I've seen reality TV people do that in real time. Yeah. They're in the wrong profession, I guess, for that. Yeah. But as far as you're concerned, you don't really see that amongst the group.
And I've seen reality TV people do that in real time. Yeah. They're in the wrong profession, I guess, for that. Yeah. But as far as you're concerned, you don't really see that amongst the group.
Give me some years and some therapy under my belt and then we can talk about it. Yeah. You were definitely giving different energy than Taylor at the time. Oh, for sure.
Give me some years and some therapy under my belt and then we can talk about it. Yeah. You were definitely giving different energy than Taylor at the time. Oh, for sure.
I didn't imagine they'd even want you guys doing that stuff. Yeah.
I didn't imagine they'd even want you guys doing that stuff. Yeah.
Or what to do.
Or what to do.
Who amongst the group do you feel like is the most misrepresented or there's more to them to what we've seen so far? The most misunderstood. Yeah.
Who amongst the group do you feel like is the most misrepresented or there's more to them to what we've seen so far? The most misunderstood. Yeah.
Do you think it's growth on her part or do you think it's her... her figuring out, like learning from her mistakes and gaming the system because she's, she's not stupid. I've never met Whitney. I look forward to having an opportunity to do that. But, and again, this is all just what I've seen on TV.
Do you think it's growth on her part or do you think it's her... her figuring out, like learning from her mistakes and gaming the system because she's, she's not stupid. I've never met Whitney. I look forward to having an opportunity to do that. But, and again, this is all just what I've seen on TV.
So it might be completely inaccurate, but she, you know, and I, and I say, this is someone who's strategic and I can be calculated. You know, I like to think I have a brain. There's nothing bad about having smarts, but like, do you think her growth is sincere or more calculated?
So it might be completely inaccurate, but she, you know, and I, and I say, this is someone who's strategic and I can be calculated. You know, I like to think I have a brain. There's nothing bad about having smarts, but like, do you think her growth is sincere or more calculated?
It's like, get Miranda to forgive you. Yeah.
It's like, get Miranda to forgive you. Yeah.
I mean, we've heard Taylor's version a long time ago, but from your point of view, how do these conversations unfold? Was it just more like we're all together having a DoorDash party? And someone says, let's play spin the bottle when we're drunk. And then it kind of unravels from there.
I mean, we've heard Taylor's version a long time ago, but from your point of view, how do these conversations unfold? Was it just more like we're all together having a DoorDash party? And someone says, let's play spin the bottle when we're drunk. And then it kind of unravels from there.
Yeah. It's just, you know, with this particular fallout, sadly, it just feels like there's conversations going on that are very heavy and very serious.
Yeah. It's just, you know, with this particular fallout, sadly, it just feels like there's conversations going on that are very heavy and very serious.
And it seems like a real shame.
And it seems like a real shame.
I do. I just want to put some clarity on and have this question because the stuff is starting to get out there. Yes. Marciano.
I do. I just want to put some clarity on and have this question because the stuff is starting to get out there. Yes. Marciano.
So to me, refer to him as a sexual predator in the comments. You have your opinion about the situation. You know, way more than us.
So to me, refer to him as a sexual predator in the comments. You have your opinion about the situation. You know, way more than us.
This information is coming out in real time. I'm of the understanding that the accusation is around like he grabbed her in a way that she felt was inappropriate.
This information is coming out in real time. I'm of the understanding that the accusation is around like he grabbed her in a way that she felt was inappropriate.
Yes. For the people who were there, it sounds like Jen and Jess outside of Demi, who seem to be questioning Demi's integrity. How can they be so confident unless they were literally around her 24-7?
Yes. For the people who were there, it sounds like Jen and Jess outside of Demi, who seem to be questioning Demi's integrity. How can they be so confident unless they were literally around her 24-7?
that you're under the impression was consensual. Yes. That seems to be the biggest driving force, whether it's you or Jesse or any of the other women, that's stopping you ladies from having a hard time believing to me.
that you're under the impression was consensual. Yes. That seems to be the biggest driving force, whether it's you or Jesse or any of the other women, that's stopping you ladies from having a hard time believing to me.
Well, thanks for having that conversation. I know it's very difficult and we, all of us obviously want to be respectful and you know more than we know, but you're still, as you just mentioned, you weren't there, you're heavily involved because you're friends with these women. So I appreciate you trying to delicately have this conversation. I know it's not easy.
Well, thanks for having that conversation. I know it's very difficult and we, all of us obviously want to be respectful and you know more than we know, but you're still, as you just mentioned, you weren't there, you're heavily involved because you're friends with these women. So I appreciate you trying to delicately have this conversation. I know it's not easy.
So thank you for trying to have it with us.
So thank you for trying to have it with us.
A lot of this stuff we're talking about right now is, for all we know, there's more fighting in the comments as we speak.
A lot of this stuff we're talking about right now is, for all we know, there's more fighting in the comments as we speak.
And this stuff was playing out this morning before we sat down and recorded. And by the time this episode comes out, which will be a few weeks from now. Right. Who knows where we will stand with the information that is out there and what we're even talking about. So. Yes. Just for those listening. Yeah. It's a lot to unpack. Before we let you go, anything you want to share?
And this stuff was playing out this morning before we sat down and recorded. And by the time this episode comes out, which will be a few weeks from now. Right. Who knows where we will stand with the information that is out there and what we're even talking about. So. Yes. Just for those listening. Yeah. It's a lot to unpack. Before we let you go, anything you want to share?
I mean, you've been so open. It's been great getting to know you. We're excited to see you join this cast. I speak for myself when I say that. But just any final thoughts before the world gets to see you and the rest of these ladies tomorrow on season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
I mean, you've been so open. It's been great getting to know you. We're excited to see you join this cast. I speak for myself when I say that. But just any final thoughts before the world gets to see you and the rest of these ladies tomorrow on season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
Are you dating?
Are you dating?
There's a lot of, I think, fear when it comes to specifically women, you know, who are leaving relationships to enter in the dating world as a single mom.
There's a lot of, I think, fear when it comes to specifically women, you know, who are leaving relationships to enter in the dating world as a single mom.
what have you learned and what can you offer to any women out there who, who are in your position, who are considering being in your position or just starting to be in your position? We've heard all the fears. Right. I'm, you know, all the worries have been well documented, but what, What have you gained from your independence as a single mom?
what have you learned and what can you offer to any women out there who, who are in your position, who are considering being in your position or just starting to be in your position? We've heard all the fears. Right. I'm, you know, all the worries have been well documented, but what, What have you gained from your independence as a single mom?
And what are things that you have learned to appreciate as a single mom that maybe you can share with our audience to offer them more of a silver lining and hope and optimism around being an independent woman?
And what are things that you have learned to appreciate as a single mom that maybe you can share with our audience to offer them more of a silver lining and hope and optimism around being an independent woman?
Who was obviously out there being.
Who was obviously out there being.
Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Wishing you the best of luck. Excited to see people watch you this season. And if I can offer you any unsolicited advice, like TV's bullshit, the internet's bullshit. Like the more you can, you know, this is a time for you.
Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Wishing you the best of luck. Excited to see people watch you this season. And if I can offer you any unsolicited advice, like TV's bullshit, the internet's bullshit. Like the more you can, you know, this is a time for you.
I hope that to, whether it's your kids, even your ex-husband who have a positive relationship with your family, those real relationships will like center you, ground you. And the more you can focus on their opinions and their completely ignore the other stuff, the better you will be because it really, you know, this is a job for you, you know, and sort of treat it as such. It's entertainment.
I hope that to, whether it's your kids, even your ex-husband who have a positive relationship with your family, those real relationships will like center you, ground you. And the more you can focus on their opinions and their completely ignore the other stuff, the better you will be because it really, you know, this is a job for you, you know, and sort of treat it as such. It's entertainment.
No pineapples on different lawns.
No pineapples on different lawns.
Let people be entertained, you know, and allow them to think and feel whatever they're going to think and feel because I'm sure you've learned this already. You can't control the opinions of everyone out there. So you might as well just like focus on what's in front of you and what matters. And if you can do that, I think you'll be glad that you did.
Let people be entertained, you know, and allow them to think and feel whatever they're going to think and feel because I'm sure you've learned this already. You can't control the opinions of everyone out there. So you might as well just like focus on what's in front of you and what matters. And if you can do that, I think you'll be glad that you did.
It's hard, but it's a process. If you can do that, then I look forward to watching you on many more seasons to come.
It's hard, but it's a process. If you can do that, then I look forward to watching you on many more seasons to come.
Thank you guys for listening. Don't forget that season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is out tomorrow on Hulu. They're dropping 10 juicy episodes for you to binge, watch, and digest. And we will be covering it the whole way through.
Thank you guys for listening. Don't forget that season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is out tomorrow on Hulu. They're dropping 10 juicy episodes for you to binge, watch, and digest. And we will be covering it the whole way through.
And we'll see you back tomorrow for another episode of RR with our special guests, Demi and Brett, to preview the upcoming season and get into some of the more juicy stuff conversation so more to come good luck with that bye
And we'll see you back tomorrow for another episode of RR with our special guests, Demi and Brett, to preview the upcoming season and get into some of the more juicy stuff conversation so more to come good luck with that bye
Being, you know.
Being, you know.
Her true self and putting out the story. What was that whole experience like? Like when it first like dropped.
Her true self and putting out the story. What was that whole experience like? Like when it first like dropped.
Yeah. Is, is the regret more centered around people knowing, and here we are having, you know, it's been two years removed and obviously it's our first time talking to you and it's, it's this irrelevant topic given the show that you're on. Uh, and there's still a lot, is it centered around more shame and the fear of, you know,
Yeah. Is, is the regret more centered around people knowing, and here we are having, you know, it's been two years removed and obviously it's our first time talking to you and it's, it's this irrelevant topic given the show that you're on. Uh, and there's still a lot, is it centered around more shame and the fear of, you know,
yeah the fear that this will always kind of follow you is like a scarlet letter or or is the regret you know more around maybe my marriage would have wouldn't have fallen apart had we not partaken in this type of activity
yeah the fear that this will always kind of follow you is like a scarlet letter or or is the regret you know more around maybe my marriage would have wouldn't have fallen apart had we not partaken in this type of activity
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, obviously, like what you guys partook in is untraditional kind of relationship. Right.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, obviously, like what you guys partook in is untraditional kind of relationship. Right.
It's not for everybody. No, I suppose. So like if you were to try it, like there might be a lot of people who might go, oh, that was I was into that. Yeah, that was a fun thing. They discover a kink they're into and other people might be like, you know what? tried it. I'm good.
It's not for everybody. No, I suppose. So like if you were to try it, like there might be a lot of people who might go, oh, that was I was into that. Yeah, that was a fun thing. They discover a kink they're into and other people might be like, you know what? tried it. I'm good.
You know, like even some people who might like be confused about their sexuality and maybe they, they make out with someone of the same sex out of pure curiosity only to be like, I guess I'm in fact straight.
You know, like even some people who might like be confused about their sexuality and maybe they, they make out with someone of the same sex out of pure curiosity only to be like, I guess I'm in fact straight.
Yes, exactly. And other people might realize that they really enjoy that experience and dive a little deeper.
Yes, exactly. And other people might realize that they really enjoy that experience and dive a little deeper.
So that, that makes a lot of sense.
So that, that makes a lot of sense.
I think one Taylor has put out there that like couples were having sex like with each other around other couples. Is that something that happened?
I think one Taylor has put out there that like couples were having sex like with each other around other couples. Is that something that happened?
Like they were having sex with like an audience.
Like they were having sex with like an audience.
Okay. But like, I guess in a way you guys could see each other if you wanted to.
Okay. But like, I guess in a way you guys could see each other if you wanted to.
Sure. It seems like, you know, Taylor, we've really enjoyed getting to know her and enjoyed interviewing with her and getting to watch the season. Like, you know, it seems like Taylor is a very dynamic person who will say things. There's a lot of truth to what they're saying, but they're vague enough to allow people to... Run with theories. Yes.
Sure. It seems like, you know, Taylor, we've really enjoyed getting to know her and enjoyed interviewing with her and getting to watch the season. Like, you know, it seems like Taylor is a very dynamic person who will say things. There's a lot of truth to what they're saying, but they're vague enough to allow people to... Run with theories. Yes.
Do you think that's intentional on Taylor's part or do you think that's just a product of Taylor? You know, she's been very vulnerable about having her own demons and her own issues she's working through. And do you think it's just a product of her just, you know, very sometimes messy figuring her own life out at the sometimes the sacrifice of other people's being involved?
Do you think that's intentional on Taylor's part or do you think that's just a product of Taylor? You know, she's been very vulnerable about having her own demons and her own issues she's working through. And do you think it's just a product of her just, you know, very sometimes messy figuring her own life out at the sometimes the sacrifice of other people's being involved?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In my memory bank. Do you think Mauricio's meal was comped?
In my memory bank. Do you think Mauricio's meal was comped?
I have a question. When do you date? Let's say you start dating somebody and then their birthday is kind of soon and you're in that period where you're like, I'm not gonna get you a gift, but
I have a question. When do you date? Let's say you start dating somebody and then their birthday is kind of soon and you're in that period where you're like, I'm not gonna get you a gift, but
Do you guys dare me to go into a restaurant and be like, do you know who I am? Sometimes I'm on the couch on the vile files.
Do you guys dare me to go into a restaurant and be like, do you know who I am? Sometimes I'm on the couch on the vile files.
Please don't.
Please don't.
Weil ich, ich war so, ich würde Leute im Auge stören. Und ich war so, ich möchte dich anschauen, nachdem du mich gerade geäußert hast. Weil die meisten Leute waren dumm. I would get, when Starbucks, so Starbucks never had POS tips. It was always only cash tips. And then halfway through when I was working there, they started, they put it on like our POS.
Weil ich, ich war so, ich würde Leute im Auge stören. Und ich war so, ich möchte dich anschauen, nachdem du mich gerade geäußert hast. Weil die meisten Leute waren dumm. I would get, when Starbucks, so Starbucks never had POS tips. It was always only cash tips. And then halfway through when I was working there, they started, they put it on like our POS.
And literally the disdain people would look at me with, when I didn't even have control over it. I wasn't even turning anything around. It was just there. And they would literally look, they would be like, are you Are you fucking kidding me? And I would be like, look at me and hit no tip then. If you're gonna be so mad about this, you can hit no tip. I don't give a shit.
And literally the disdain people would look at me with, when I didn't even have control over it. I wasn't even turning anything around. It was just there. And they would literally look, they would be like, are you Are you fucking kidding me? And I would be like, look at me and hit no tip then. If you're gonna be so mad about this, you can hit no tip. I don't give a shit.
Ja, und dann, genau, wenn sie das gemacht haben, war ich so, Period. Aber ich war so, du musst mich anschauen. Und das Ding war so, wenn ich nur jemanden einen schwarzen Kaffee bekommen würde, würde ich sagen, lass mich nicht.
Ja, und dann, genau, wenn sie das gemacht haben, war ich so, Period. Aber ich war so, du musst mich anschauen. Und das Ding war so, wenn ich nur jemanden einen schwarzen Kaffee bekommen würde, würde ich sagen, lass mich nicht.
Aber dann, ja, und dann, wenn jemand fragt, was für die komplizierteste Trink in der Welt, und dann werden sie verrückt, wenn sie einen Tipp verlassen müssen, bin ich so, Mädchen, denkst du, dass ich genug bezahlt bin, um dich mit diesem Thema zu handeln? Ich bin so kind, ich biete, ich bin so, ich habe früher Leute gefordert, um ihre Trinken günstiger zu machen, und dann würden sie nicht trinken.
Aber dann, ja, und dann, wenn jemand fragt, was für die komplizierteste Trink in der Welt, und dann werden sie verrückt, wenn sie einen Tipp verlassen müssen, bin ich so, Mädchen, denkst du, dass ich genug bezahlt bin, um dich mit diesem Thema zu handeln? Ich bin so kind, ich biete, ich bin so, ich habe früher Leute gefordert, um ihre Trinken günstiger zu machen, und dann würden sie nicht trinken.
Ja.
Ja.
Ja, es gibt eine... Ich fühle mich, als würde ich überholt werden, um zu steigen oder dumme Sachen in L.A.
Ja, es gibt eine... Ich fühle mich, als würde ich überholt werden, um zu steigen oder dumme Sachen in L.A.
Du musst wirklich was tun.
Du musst wirklich was tun.
Und ich werde überwältigt. Ja, die eine Zeit, als ich überwältigt wurde, habe ich angefangen zu weinen. Aber es war, weil ich überwältigt wurde, als jemand neben meiner Hochschule war. Zu Hause. Und dann war ich so, wie der Polizist seine Lichter aufgedrückt hat, als ich durch eine Intersektion ging. Und ich war so, ich habe noch nie überwältigt worden.
Und ich werde überwältigt. Ja, die eine Zeit, als ich überwältigt wurde, habe ich angefangen zu weinen. Aber es war, weil ich überwältigt wurde, als jemand neben meiner Hochschule war. Zu Hause. Und dann war ich so, wie der Polizist seine Lichter aufgedrückt hat, als ich durch eine Intersektion ging. Und ich war so, ich habe noch nie überwältigt worden.
Und ich war so, ich werde nicht in der Mitte dieser Intersektion stoppen. Also habe ich gewartet, bis ich über die Straße kam. Und dann habe ich überwältigt. Und dann sagte dieser Polizist, dass ich zurückgezogen werde, weil er sagte, dass ich in die Szene fliege. Weil er sah, dass ich meine Lizenz gesehen habe. Meine Hausaufgabe war auf der Straße. Und ich war so, was zur Hölle?
Und ich war so, ich werde nicht in der Mitte dieser Intersektion stoppen. Also habe ich gewartet, bis ich über die Straße kam. Und dann habe ich überwältigt. Und dann sagte dieser Polizist, dass ich zurückgezogen werde, weil er sagte, dass ich in die Szene fliege. Weil er sah, dass ich meine Lizenz gesehen habe. Meine Hausaufgabe war auf der Straße. Und ich war so, was zur Hölle?
Und dann habe ich angefangen zu weinen, weil ich furchtbar war. Und er hat sich literally zurückgezogen und mir ein Ticket gegeben, nicht um zu steigen. aber für das Verletzen eines Unfallfahrzeuges. Und er sagte, wenn ich ein Stadttrupper wäre, hätte ich dein Auto gewechselt. Und ich dachte, Mädchen, was zur Hölle? Du und mein Vater kannten den Polizisten auch.
Und dann habe ich angefangen zu weinen, weil ich furchtbar war. Und er hat sich literally zurückgezogen und mir ein Ticket gegeben, nicht um zu steigen. aber für das Verletzen eines Unfallfahrzeuges. Und er sagte, wenn ich ein Stadttrupper wäre, hätte ich dein Auto gewechselt. Und ich dachte, Mädchen, was zur Hölle? Du und mein Vater kannten den Polizisten auch.
Und er sagte, dieser Typ ist ein Verlierer. Er hängt bei der Hochschule aus, weil ich nichts anderes tun will. Und ich dachte, Period. Aber ich habe 75 Dollar bezahlt.
Und er sagte, dieser Typ ist ein Verlierer. Er hängt bei der Hochschule aus, weil ich nichts anderes tun will. Und ich dachte, Period. Aber ich habe 75 Dollar bezahlt.
I don't know justice for Emeril.
I don't know justice for Emeril.
I don't know. He is sexualized a little bit. I think he's gotten overly sexualized on the show.
I don't know. He is sexualized a little bit. I think he's gotten overly sexualized on the show.
He didn't get overly sexualized. I'm sure there's other things that he also did that would have maybe rounded him out as a person that's not just fucking. I don't know.
He didn't get overly sexualized. I'm sure there's other things that he also did that would have maybe rounded him out as a person that's not just fucking. I don't know.
Nicht so viel Gerechtigkeit. Nein, oder eine gute Person, um auf Summer House zu sein. Ich denke einfach, dass er... Ich denke, dass die Art und Weise, wie die Konversation um ihn herum ist, so übersexualisiert ist, weil er in die Edit gegangen ist und weil er nicht unbedingt gut auf dem Show gespielt hat.
Nicht so viel Gerechtigkeit. Nein, oder eine gute Person, um auf Summer House zu sein. Ich denke einfach, dass er... Ich denke, dass die Art und Weise, wie die Konversation um ihn herum ist, so übersexualisiert ist, weil er in die Edit gegangen ist und weil er nicht unbedingt gut auf dem Show gespielt hat.
Ich denke, dass die Leute auf ihn eine Perspektive haben, die vielleicht nicht die ganze Wahrheit ist.
Ich denke, dass die Leute auf ihn eine Perspektive haben, die vielleicht nicht die ganze Wahrheit ist.
Like, go and console her. They're all just like, come on back. Well, from Britney's perspective, she's like, I, like, been there. Come on back. Weißt du, was ich meine? Sie sagt, nein, stopp. Nein, stopp. Wir tun alle das. Tom hat uns versucht, uns zu überzeugen, dass wir unsere Meinung über Jesse verändern werden.
Like, go and console her. They're all just like, come on back. Well, from Britney's perspective, she's like, I, like, been there. Come on back. Weißt du, was ich meine? Sie sagt, nein, stopp. Nein, stopp. Wir tun alle das. Tom hat uns versucht, uns zu überzeugen, dass wir unsere Meinung über Jesse verändern werden.
I mean, I do that sometimes, but it's when I have like, Me and my friends will be drinking Trader Joe's Box Wine and I'm like, wait. Exactly.
I mean, I do that sometimes, but it's when I have like, Me and my friends will be drinking Trader Joe's Box Wine and I'm like, wait. Exactly.
But have you guys seen Wine Country? The best movie in the world?
But have you guys seen Wine Country? The best movie in the world?
They do that all the time in the movie Wine Country. Everyone should go watch it.
They do that all the time in the movie Wine Country. Everyone should go watch it.
Trauma response?
Trauma response?
Jennifer Lawrence quotes Britney all the time.
Jennifer Lawrence quotes Britney all the time.
When people start drinking and turn into a different person, it just gives me an ick about them as a whole person.
When people start drinking and turn into a different person, it just gives me an ick about them as a whole person.
Und er ist im Bett, weil sie nicht wollen, dass er mit dem, was er sagen wird, oder an der Table tut, wenn er so trank ist. Ich vertraue es nicht.
Und er ist im Bett, weil sie nicht wollen, dass er mit dem, was er sagen wird, oder an der Table tut, wenn er so trank ist. Ich vertraue es nicht.
I thought it was the other way around. Girl, I'm remembering this from when I was in high school.
I thought it was the other way around. Girl, I'm remembering this from when I was in high school.
I remember my mom had HBO, so I would use the regular HBO because it was through DirecTV. But now they're also, here's my biggest beef with David Zaslav right now, sir. Cracking down on password sharing on HBO.
I remember my mom had HBO, so I would use the regular HBO because it was through DirecTV. But now they're also, here's my biggest beef with David Zaslav right now, sir. Cracking down on password sharing on HBO.
Yes, it is, sir. She said first and last.
Yes, it is, sir. She said first and last.
I think they're all doing that. They're like, Netflix did that. Netflix has been doing it, but the amount of mouths that my mother's HBO password feeds, it's truly devastating, what's happening.
I think they're all doing that. They're like, Netflix did that. Netflix has been doing it, but the amount of mouths that my mother's HBO password feeds, it's truly devastating, what's happening.
In verschiedenen Orten. In verschiedenen Orten.
In verschiedenen Orten. In verschiedenen Orten.
I gotta correct you. I'm so sorry. It's wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You said my name wrong every time. Demi? It's Demi?
I gotta correct you. I'm so sorry. It's wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You said my name wrong every time. Demi? It's Demi?
I know, we were talking about such deep things that I was like, this isn't the place. But now that we've like talked about homes and, you know, we've reestablished just like normalcy. I'm like, now I got a talent. Now you have a bugger in your mouth. Yeah, you have a piece of kale in your teeth.
I know, we were talking about such deep things that I was like, this isn't the place. But now that we've like talked about homes and, you know, we've reestablished just like normalcy. I'm like, now I got a talent. Now you have a bugger in your mouth. Yeah, you have a piece of kale in your teeth.
Es ist verbunden mit deinem Account, also ich denke, du solltest gut sein, weil du immer noch abrufen musst. Jedes Mal, wenn ich etwas auf Netflix schaue, muss ich meine Mutter anrufen und sicher machen, dass sie wach ist und auch in der Ostküste ist, um sicher zu machen, dass sie mich abrufen kann, wenn ich auf ihr Netflix logge, dass ich reise. Das ist verrückt.
Es ist verbunden mit deinem Account, also ich denke, du solltest gut sein, weil du immer noch abrufen musst. Jedes Mal, wenn ich etwas auf Netflix schaue, muss ich meine Mutter anrufen und sicher machen, dass sie wach ist und auch in der Ostküste ist, um sicher zu machen, dass sie mich abrufen kann, wenn ich auf ihr Netflix logge, dass ich reise. Das ist verrückt.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's Brett, right?
It's Brett, right?
That's what he gets called everywhere we go.
That's what he gets called everywhere we go.
nervös und auch einfach, ich weiß nicht, in Frieden, dass ich jede Situation bestmöglich gemacht habe, je nachdem, was die Verhältnisse waren und die Informationen, die ich hatte. Aber es ist immer nervig. Du weißt nie, was gezeigt wird, wie Dinge gedreht werden. Und es ist immer so, dass ich nicht weiß, dass das etwas ist, das du besser beantworten kannst als ich.
nervös und auch einfach, ich weiß nicht, in Frieden, dass ich jede Situation bestmöglich gemacht habe, je nachdem, was die Verhältnisse waren und die Informationen, die ich hatte. Aber es ist immer nervig. Du weißt nie, was gezeigt wird, wie Dinge gedreht werden. Und es ist immer so, dass ich nicht weiß, dass das etwas ist, das du besser beantworten kannst als ich.
Ist es etwas, das du jemals gewohnt bist, dass du nur lebst, Okay, fair. Weil du die Wahrheit kennst, und du denkst, wer kümmert sich?
Ist es etwas, das du jemals gewohnt bist, dass du nur lebst, Okay, fair. Weil du die Wahrheit kennst, und du denkst, wer kümmert sich?
Ja, absolut. Ich weiß nicht, ob du mir Spezifiken nennen möchtest.
Ja, absolut. Ich weiß nicht, ob du mir Spezifiken nennen möchtest.
Yeah, okay, we'll go one for one. Jen. Yes, definitely with Jen, I feel like cameras come out and it's a performance.
Yeah, okay, we'll go one for one. Jen. Yes, definitely with Jen, I feel like cameras come out and it's a performance.
Which you would think that like Whitney, right, who's pursuing acting, that you would be like, oh, this is an act. Like, no.
Which you would think that like Whitney, right, who's pursuing acting, that you would be like, oh, this is an act. Like, no.
Okay, fair. Yep, that's true. That is true. Yeah, Jen is very performative. Everything was kind of an act. It was very much... Das langweilige Blinken.
Okay, fair. Yep, that's true. That is true. Yeah, Jen is very performative. Everything was kind of an act. It was very much... Das langweilige Blinken.
Wie ist Jen in der Realität? Viel mehr zurückgelegt. Sie ist nicht so blöd, wie sie auf der Kamera kommt. Wenn das Sinn macht. Wenn es ein Problem gibt, wird sie sagen, das war eine Misskommunikation. Sie ist ein bisschen einfacher. Aber dann kommen Kameras raus und plötzlich ist sie wie diese blöde Jen, die... Sie ist bereit, jemanden rauszuholen und zu ihrem dummen Mann zu stehen.
Wie ist Jen in der Realität? Viel mehr zurückgelegt. Sie ist nicht so blöd, wie sie auf der Kamera kommt. Wenn das Sinn macht. Wenn es ein Problem gibt, wird sie sagen, das war eine Misskommunikation. Sie ist ein bisschen einfacher. Aber dann kommen Kameras raus und plötzlich ist sie wie diese blöde Jen, die... Sie ist bereit, jemanden rauszuholen und zu ihrem dummen Mann zu stehen.
Und es ist so, dass du nicht zu vorn bist.
Und es ist so, dass du nicht zu vorn bist.
Ja, und dein Mann ist eigentlich ein sehr netter Kerl. Das ist, wo sie sehr performativ wurde, war mit Zach.
Ja, und dein Mann ist eigentlich ein sehr netter Kerl. Das ist, wo sie sehr performativ wurde, war mit Zach.
But then apparently she was the breadwinner.
But then apparently she was the breadwinner.
Was ist los? Ich wollte sagen, bist du es mit der Atmungsklasse verbunden, die wir gemacht haben? Weil ich dachte, das war... Ja, die Art, wie es gedreht wurde, sah wie eine volle Orgie aus. Aber Nocadamine, ja, es ist unglaublich. Es hat mein Leben literally gerettet.
Was ist los? Ich wollte sagen, bist du es mit der Atmungsklasse verbunden, die wir gemacht haben? Weil ich dachte, das war... Ja, die Art, wie es gedreht wurde, sah wie eine volle Orgie aus. Aber Nocadamine, ja, es ist unglaublich. Es hat mein Leben literally gerettet.
Ich werde emotional darüber sprechen, weil es die Form der Therapie war, die in meinem Leben kam, in der Zeit, in der ich kämpfte, viel zu kämpfen hatte. Dämonen und fühlte viel Leid und Verzweiflung, um meine vorherige Beziehung zu beenden. Und ich fühlte, als hätte ich meine Familie zerbrochen. Und ich hatte viel zu tun.
Ich werde emotional darüber sprechen, weil es die Form der Therapie war, die in meinem Leben kam, in der Zeit, in der ich kämpfte, viel zu kämpfen hatte. Dämonen und fühlte viel Leid und Verzweiflung, um meine vorherige Beziehung zu beenden. Und ich fühlte, als hätte ich meine Familie zerbrochen. Und ich hatte viel zu tun.
Und es ist zu schlimm, dass es sich irgendwie, weißt du, gezwungen wurde, in der Weise, wie es war, wie diese negativen Dinge mit mir und Whitney. Und dann weiß ich nicht, wie es sich in der Saison 2 darstellt. Aber ich bin so, Jen, das ist nicht deine Geschichte. Wie habe ich Ketamin dir vorgestellt? Wie kam das überhaupt her? Ich bin so fasziniert davon.
Und es ist zu schlimm, dass es sich irgendwie, weißt du, gezwungen wurde, in der Weise, wie es war, wie diese negativen Dinge mit mir und Whitney. Und dann weiß ich nicht, wie es sich in der Saison 2 darstellt. Aber ich bin so, Jen, das ist nicht deine Geschichte. Wie habe ich Ketamin dir vorgestellt? Wie kam das überhaupt her? Ich bin so fasziniert davon.
Ich bin sehr sicher davon, weil die Leute sagen, Ketamin, das ist ein spezielles Ketamin. Ich sage, nein, das ist nicht das, was Ketamin für mich war. Es war sehr therapeutisch und ich habe es mit vielen anderen Werkzeugen benutzt. Es hat mich ganz literally geschliffen und auch meine Gehirnchemie verändert.
Ich bin sehr sicher davon, weil die Leute sagen, Ketamin, das ist ein spezielles Ketamin. Ich sage, nein, das ist nicht das, was Ketamin für mich war. Es war sehr therapeutisch und ich habe es mit vielen anderen Werkzeugen benutzt. Es hat mich ganz literally geschliffen und auch meine Gehirnchemie verändert.
Ja, ich. Das ist, wie ich es mache. Okay.
Ja, ich. Das ist, wie ich es mache. Okay.
Ja, es ist sehr kontrolliert. Es ist sehr, es ist mikrodost. Es ist sehr kontrolliert. Es ist durch einen IV. Okay. Wobei manche Leute es mit einer Pille nehmen. Und sie nehmen viel zu viel. Oder sie... They're not doing it in the right environment and then they lose control. In this situation, like you remove the IV and within like 10 minutes, you're completely back to normal.
Ja, es ist sehr kontrolliert. Es ist sehr, es ist mikrodost. Es ist sehr kontrolliert. Es ist durch einen IV. Okay. Wobei manche Leute es mit einer Pille nehmen. Und sie nehmen viel zu viel. Oder sie... They're not doing it in the right environment and then they lose control. In this situation, like you remove the IV and within like 10 minutes, you're completely back to normal.
No, no, no, no. You do it.
No, no, no, no. You do it.
Ja, du hast dich auf deine Mutter gehalten. Und dann waren die Lichter aus. Und er hat gesagt, schalte die Lichter an, schalte die Lichter an. Es war eine überraschende Erfahrung.
Ja, du hast dich auf deine Mutter gehalten. Und dann waren die Lichter aus. Und er hat gesagt, schalte die Lichter an, schalte die Lichter an. Es war eine überraschende Erfahrung.
Wo bist du heute mit Jesse? Ich habe Nick vorhin gesagt, dass sie mich auf alles blockiert hat. Wow. Und ich war wieder und wieder mit Nick, in Bezug auf Verantwortung, wenn es um solche Situationen geht. Und wie man das navigiert. Ich habe versucht, eine Konversation mit ihr zu haben, über alles.
Wo bist du heute mit Jesse? Ich habe Nick vorhin gesagt, dass sie mich auf alles blockiert hat. Wow. Und ich war wieder und wieder mit Nick, in Bezug auf Verantwortung, wenn es um solche Situationen geht. Und wie man das navigiert. Ich habe versucht, eine Konversation mit ihr zu haben, über alles.
Und sie sind ehrlich gesagt, das, was so schlecht ist, ist, dass so viel von dem war entweder Verständnis und Dinge, die getäuscht sind, oder einfach komplett, wie das Ego, das in den Weg kommt, tatsächlich, wirklich eine Konversation zu haben. Like really when you break it down.
Und sie sind ehrlich gesagt, das, was so schlecht ist, ist, dass so viel von dem war entweder Verständnis und Dinge, die getäuscht sind, oder einfach komplett, wie das Ego, das in den Weg kommt, tatsächlich, wirklich eine Konversation zu haben. Like really when you break it down.
It's like this was either a miscommunication and like why that hurt you so bad or that genuinely was never said that way or this, you know. And then when I tried to approach her to have that conversation, it was we'll talk on camera. And I was like, oh, so this is very like this is a very transactional relationship.
It's like this was either a miscommunication and like why that hurt you so bad or that genuinely was never said that way or this, you know. And then when I tried to approach her to have that conversation, it was we'll talk on camera. And I was like, oh, so this is very like this is a very transactional relationship.
This is not like if a friend really cares about you, they would want to have a conversation that day. Let's jump on the call. Like, let's jump on. I mean, y'all had like a real. Freundschaft, richtig? Ich dachte es, ja.
This is not like if a friend really cares about you, they would want to have a conversation that day. Let's jump on the call. Like, let's jump on. I mean, y'all had like a real. Freundschaft, richtig? Ich dachte es, ja.
Ja, er hat es nie gedacht, um ehrlich zu sein.
Ja, er hat es nie gedacht, um ehrlich zu sein.
Well, and multiple things had happened at that point. I don't know what they show in Season 2 in terms of Jesse and I, but they talk about the contract situation. So you haven't seen it yet?
Well, and multiple things had happened at that point. I don't know what they show in Season 2 in terms of Jesse and I, but they talk about the contract situation. So you haven't seen it yet?
Am I supposed to have?
Am I supposed to have?
If you're not Prince, rest in peace, don't do it.
If you're not Prince, rest in peace, don't do it.
Nein, ich habe es noch nicht gesehen, also weiß ich nicht genau, was drin war und wie es gedreht wurde. Aber in Bezug auf Jesse und ich, so viele Dinge, nicht so viele Dinge, aber mehrere Dinge sind passiert, die zu diesem Punkt geführt haben. Und sie waren nicht Dinge, die man nicht necessarily durchwerfen konnte.
Nein, ich habe es noch nicht gesehen, also weiß ich nicht genau, was drin war und wie es gedreht wurde. Aber in Bezug auf Jesse und ich, so viele Dinge, nicht so viele Dinge, aber mehrere Dinge sind passiert, die zu diesem Punkt geführt haben. Und sie waren nicht Dinge, die man nicht necessarily durchwerfen konnte.
Waren es irgendwelche Dinge off camera, die passiert sind, die man sich denken kann? Ja. Yeah, a couple things were off camera. Specifically to, we kind of got into it, but I had opened up to all the girls after Vanderpump Villa that I'd been groped, sexually assaulted. I'm so sorry. That's okay. And I opened up to the girls and I asked them to not tell anyone.
Waren es irgendwelche Dinge off camera, die passiert sind, die man sich denken kann? Ja. Yeah, a couple things were off camera. Specifically to, we kind of got into it, but I had opened up to all the girls after Vanderpump Villa that I'd been groped, sexually assaulted. I'm so sorry. That's okay. And I opened up to the girls and I asked them to not tell anyone.
I told them that, you know, a couple of the girls were like, you need to, like,
I told them that, you know, a couple of the girls were like, you need to, like,
file against this guy like you like if this were me this is what i would do and i was just like guys like i need you to allow me to handle this the way that i want to handle it and um i just said i need you to respect that i don't want to talk about this and i don't want to make it legal i don't want all of the everything that comes with making this legal on my plate right now
file against this guy like you like if this were me this is what i would do and i was just like guys like i need you to allow me to handle this the way that i want to handle it and um i just said i need you to respect that i don't want to talk about this and i don't want to make it legal i don't want all of the everything that comes with making this legal on my plate right now
with everything else going on. Like, I do not want this to become a thing. Please promise me you won't tell your husbands. Do not tell a soul. I think all but two weeks later, Jesse went on and went out to do Sheena's podcast and told Sheena. And I was like, you don't even know this person. Like, you don't even know Sheena.
with everything else going on. Like, I do not want this to become a thing. Please promise me you won't tell your husbands. Do not tell a soul. I think all but two weeks later, Jesse went on and went out to do Sheena's podcast and told Sheena. And I was like, you don't even know this person. Like, you don't even know Sheena.
Like, why would you in the first five minutes of knowing this person tell her something that I've asked you not to tell her? Und das war wirklich schmerzhaft für mich. Aber ich habe es sofort beantwortet. Und ich gebe mir da meine Schuld. Ich habe sie sofort angerufen. Je nachdem, wie ich darüber herausgefunden habe, habe ich sie angerufen. War das auf ihrer Show?
Like, why would you in the first five minutes of knowing this person tell her something that I've asked you not to tell her? Und das war wirklich schmerzhaft für mich. Aber ich habe es sofort beantwortet. Und ich gebe mir da meine Schuld. Ich habe sie sofort angerufen. Je nachdem, wie ich darüber herausgefunden habe, habe ich sie angerufen. War das auf ihrer Show?
Sie hat nicht darüber gesprochen, aber sie hat ihr darüber gesprochen. Ich musste eigentlich mit ihr mitgehen, um diesen Podcast zu machen. Und sie und ich waren in einer Kämpfe über Negotiationskontrakte für Saison 2.
Sie hat nicht darüber gesprochen, aber sie hat ihr darüber gesprochen. Ich musste eigentlich mit ihr mitgehen, um diesen Podcast zu machen. Und sie und ich waren in einer Kämpfe über Negotiationskontrakte für Saison 2.
And so I ended up not going out and she was upset with me and I, to her credit, I kind of like ghosted her on the Sheena podcast and I didn't like let her know that I wasn't going to go. And I didn't even like respond to her. I was just so upset. And then she goes out to film the podcast and while they're out there filming, she talks about it.
And so I ended up not going out and she was upset with me and I, to her credit, I kind of like ghosted her on the Sheena podcast and I didn't like let her know that I wasn't going to go. And I didn't even like respond to her. I was just so upset. And then she goes out to film the podcast and while they're out there filming, she talks about it.
So it was just a couple of things that had just like stacked up. And I don't know, I don't want to speak for you, but I do feel like that it was those couple instances like you had already been kind of uneasy, but it was those couple instances where you were like red flag. Am I am I correct in saying that?
So it was just a couple of things that had just like stacked up. And I don't know, I don't want to speak for you, but I do feel like that it was those couple instances like you had already been kind of uneasy, but it was those couple instances where you were like red flag. Am I am I correct in saying that?
Ich glaube, Taylor... Ich glaube nicht, Taylor kümmert sich um Geld. Als ich mit ihr über Brand-Deal gesprochen habe, hat sie gesagt, ich erinnere mich nicht, wie ich das letzte Mal mit einem Brand-Deal gemacht habe. Es ist sehr klar, wer in der Gruppe ist, um einen besseren Lebensstil für ihre Familie zu schaffen und Geld zu verdienen.
Ich glaube, Taylor... Ich glaube nicht, Taylor kümmert sich um Geld. Als ich mit ihr über Brand-Deal gesprochen habe, hat sie gesagt, ich erinnere mich nicht, wie ich das letzte Mal mit einem Brand-Deal gemacht habe. Es ist sehr klar, wer in der Gruppe ist, um einen besseren Lebensstil für ihre Familie zu schaffen und Geld zu verdienen.
And none of them are gonna save you from these accusations, boo.
And none of them are gonna save you from these accusations, boo.
Und es ist sehr klar, wer in der Gruppe ist, um Ehren und Rekognition zu haben.
Und es ist sehr klar, wer in der Gruppe ist, um Ehren und Rekognition zu haben.
Definitely the lifestyle, the freedom. I grew up very, I would say modest, but on the poverty poor side. I just always knew I wanted better for my family. I did grow up thinking like, oh, it would be so fun to be like a Disney Channel star. It would be so fun to act and do these things.
Definitely the lifestyle, the freedom. I grew up very, I would say modest, but on the poverty poor side. I just always knew I wanted better for my family. I did grow up thinking like, oh, it would be so fun to be like a Disney Channel star. It would be so fun to act and do these things.
And I think it took really being in that situation to be like, I'm not willing to sacrifice the things that people are willing to in this world for that kind of financial freedom. But that's what it was for, for me. It's always been about money. It's always been about creating a better life for my family and creating free time to spend time with my family.
And I think it took really being in that situation to be like, I'm not willing to sacrifice the things that people are willing to in this world for that kind of financial freedom. But that's what it was for, for me. It's always been about money. It's always been about creating a better life for my family and creating free time to spend time with my family.
Ich habe die Perspektive, und ich glaube, Ketamin hat mir viel geholfen. Die Perspektive von Leben und seiner echten Bedeutung. Und mich als, ja, ich bin unglaublich, ja, ich habe Selbstwert, ja, ich kenne meine Fähigkeiten, so lange ich an dich schaue und die gleichen Dinge für dich und dich sage. Aber ich bin immer noch... Nur ein Mensch.
Ich habe die Perspektive, und ich glaube, Ketamin hat mir viel geholfen. Die Perspektive von Leben und seiner echten Bedeutung. Und mich als, ja, ich bin unglaublich, ja, ich habe Selbstwert, ja, ich kenne meine Fähigkeiten, so lange ich an dich schaue und die gleichen Dinge für dich und dich sage. Aber ich bin immer noch... Nur ein Mensch.
Und für mich fühlt es sich ein bisschen wie, was bist du so aufgeregt? Es ist okay. Ich sage es immer zu Leuten, ich bin nur eine Frau. Glaub mir, am Ende des Tages bin ich nur eine Frau, die versucht, das Leben zu überleben. Und das ist ein bisschen seltsam für mich. Aber das Worshippen von Menschen ist seltsam für mich.
Und für mich fühlt es sich ein bisschen wie, was bist du so aufgeregt? Es ist okay. Ich sage es immer zu Leuten, ich bin nur eine Frau. Glaub mir, am Ende des Tages bin ich nur eine Frau, die versucht, das Leben zu überleben. Und das ist ein bisschen seltsam für mich. Aber das Worshippen von Menschen ist seltsam für mich.
Ja, wir waren so, okay. Hatte Jessie früher dein Haar gemacht? Sie hat es ein paar Mal gemacht.
Ja, wir waren so, okay. Hatte Jessie früher dein Haar gemacht? Sie hat es ein paar Mal gemacht.
She's incredible. No, and I will say this. There's nothing wrong with it. It's so subjective. We did clear up how I could have handled the conversation with Taylor better. And I do see that perspective, where even just as a friend, that it wasn't my place to relay other people's opinions about it.
She's incredible. No, and I will say this. There's nothing wrong with it. It's so subjective. We did clear up how I could have handled the conversation with Taylor better. And I do see that perspective, where even just as a friend, that it wasn't my place to relay other people's opinions about it.
I think what I was getting so caught up on, and Nick helped me see this, was the semantics and the nuance of, I didn't say that
I think what I was getting so caught up on, and Nick helped me see this, was the semantics and the nuance of, I didn't say that
Jesse's shit at color I relayed the message that Jen Whitney and Layla said that she did a shitty job and I kept dying on that like but I wasn't the one that was shitting on it like these three girls were and I just relayed that and he was like well still like as a friend don't you see how it's problematic that you were relaying that information that wasn't yours to relay to sway someone else on their opinion which I see clear as day now how that was wrong
Jesse's shit at color I relayed the message that Jen Whitney and Layla said that she did a shitty job and I kept dying on that like but I wasn't the one that was shitting on it like these three girls were and I just relayed that and he was like well still like as a friend don't you see how it's problematic that you were relaying that information that wasn't yours to relay to sway someone else on their opinion which I see clear as day now how that was wrong
Like, I think it took me literally until hearing that perspective. So thank you, because I was dying on the hill of being like, but I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Like, what aren't you hearing? Instead of hearing Jesse's hurt of, okay, I get that you didn't say maybe this in this way, but this hurt me because you didn't have my back in that moment.
Like, I think it took me literally until hearing that perspective. So thank you, because I was dying on the hill of being like, but I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Like, what aren't you hearing? Instead of hearing Jesse's hurt of, okay, I get that you didn't say maybe this in this way, but this hurt me because you didn't have my back in that moment.
Das ist eine andere Gespräche, die wir hatten, in der ich ihm die Frage gestellt habe.
Das ist eine andere Gespräche, die wir hatten, in der ich ihm die Frage gestellt habe.
Wenn du einen Freund hattest, wo du Dinge hattest, wo es so ist, dass du einander verletzt hast, und dann entscheidet diese Person, sich komplett aus deiner Leben zu entfernen und dich auf alles zu blockieren, fühlst du, dass es nicht nur deine Verantwortung ist, sondern du fühlst, dass es dein Platz ist, nachdem sie dich klar blockiert haben und gesagt haben, ich will nichts mit dir zu tun haben und sagen, liebe mich, wähle mich, bitte hör mich aus.
Wenn du einen Freund hattest, wo du Dinge hattest, wo es so ist, dass du einander verletzt hast, und dann entscheidet diese Person, sich komplett aus deiner Leben zu entfernen und dich auf alles zu blockieren, fühlst du, dass es nicht nur deine Verantwortung ist, sondern du fühlst, dass es dein Platz ist, nachdem sie dich klar blockiert haben und gesagt haben, ich will nichts mit dir zu tun haben und sagen, liebe mich, wähle mich, bitte hör mich aus.
Mhm. In that circumstance, it's almost kind of like if the conversation were to naturally happen, sure, like now I know like how to take full accountability on that. Because she kept saying like, you're not taking full accountability. And I didn't understand that. And I do regret that, you know.
Mhm. In that circumstance, it's almost kind of like if the conversation were to naturally happen, sure, like now I know like how to take full accountability on that. Because she kept saying like, you're not taking full accountability. And I didn't understand that. And I do regret that, you know.
So, yes, I would have that conversation and fully own, you know, my contribution to that situation as a whole. But I don't think I'd go knocking down her door necessarily to be like, wait, hold on. If y'all happen to be in the same, you would... Ich bin mir sicher, dass wir das werden. Also ja, ich werde das den ganzen Tag behalten, weil das ist etwas, was ich jetzt sehe.
So, yes, I would have that conversation and fully own, you know, my contribution to that situation as a whole. But I don't think I'd go knocking down her door necessarily to be like, wait, hold on. If y'all happen to be in the same, you would... Ich bin mir sicher, dass wir das werden. Also ja, ich werde das den ganzen Tag behalten, weil das ist etwas, was ich jetzt sehe.
Ich kann es nicht mehr halten. Ich glaube, das ist der Grund, warum ich die Frage habe.
Ich kann es nicht mehr halten. Ich glaube, das ist der Grund, warum ich die Frage habe.
He's like, because I gotta know. You take that question.
He's like, because I gotta know. You take that question.
Ja, ich denke, das ist natürlich und völlig in Ordnung. Ich denke, es ist auch in Ordnung, darüber zu sprechen.
Ja, ich denke, das ist natürlich und völlig in Ordnung. Ich denke, es ist auch in Ordnung, darüber zu sprechen.
And Miranda.
And Miranda.
Well, okay, now we're getting, now we're putting our foot in our mouth.
Well, okay, now we're getting, now we're putting our foot in our mouth.
Because Jess did in her, Jessie did in her previous marriage.
Because Jess did in her, Jessie did in her previous marriage.
Yeah, but that leaves Jesse, Taylor, Miranda.
Yeah, but that leaves Jesse, Taylor, Miranda.
Always a pleasure. Thanks for having us.
Always a pleasure. Thanks for having us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's con.
It's con.
You have a lot of opinion on trains. Ja, genau. I just think it's funny that a French film festival has strong opinions on nudity. I'm like, literally. That is kind of crazy.
You have a lot of opinion on trains. Ja, genau. I just think it's funny that a French film festival has strong opinions on nudity. I'm like, literally. That is kind of crazy.
Also, not for nothing, this is the festival that blues the warmest colors. Some of the horniest movies you've ever seen in your life have gotten lauded and praised, but then all of a sudden, if it's on the carpet, they're like, no.
Also, not for nothing, this is the festival that blues the warmest colors. Some of the horniest movies you've ever seen in your life have gotten lauded and praised, but then all of a sudden, if it's on the carpet, they're like, no.
It's art. This is a film festival.
It's art. This is a film festival.
This is like a high art film festival and nipples are too much.
This is like a high art film festival and nipples are too much.
No one asked me how my Mother's Day was.
No one asked me how my Mother's Day was.
You know whose fault it is?
You know whose fault it is?
But that wasn't at camp. That's what I thought about too, yeah.
But that wasn't at camp. That's what I thought about too, yeah.
Ich finde auch die Halle Berry Sache interessant, denn sie ist die Co-Chefin des Festivals dieses Jahr. Und sie musste das letzte Mal ihr Dress verändern. Also es ist so, wenn dieses Dresscode passieren wird, lasst es sie wissen vor all diesen Designern.
Ich finde auch die Halle Berry Sache interessant, denn sie ist die Co-Chefin des Festivals dieses Jahr. Und sie musste das letzte Mal ihr Dress verändern. Also es ist so, wenn dieses Dresscode passieren wird, lasst es sie wissen vor all diesen Designern.
Es scheint, als es in diesem Artikel war, dass es ein letztes Mal war, dass sie vollständig ein Dress zu tragen hatte und dann es nicht tragen konnte, weil der Train zu groß war. Also ich weiß nicht, ob es ein Scheduling-Issue ist.
Es scheint, als es in diesem Artikel war, dass es ein letztes Mal war, dass sie vollständig ein Dress zu tragen hatte und dann es nicht tragen konnte, weil der Train zu groß war. Also ich weiß nicht, ob es ein Scheduling-Issue ist.
I don't know. I took Spanish.
I don't know. I took Spanish.
I mean, I didn't get a gift. I looked at George Michael and I said, are you going to tell me happy Mother's Day? And you went, meh. So we did. Yeah, but there was attitude to it.
I mean, I didn't get a gift. I looked at George Michael and I said, are you going to tell me happy Mother's Day? And you went, meh. So we did. Yeah, but there was attitude to it.
She's little. Kyle, you have 48 hours to respond.
She's little. Kyle, you have 48 hours to respond.
Denkst du, dass er das tut, um Kyle zu spiken oder um sich selbst zu pressen? Was soll er sich pressen?
Denkst du, dass er das tut, um Kyle zu spiken oder um sich selbst zu pressen? Was soll er sich pressen?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
You know, when I'm suffering in traffic, how come I never get to look to my right and see Mauricio grabbing someone's ass?
You know, when I'm suffering in traffic, how come I never get to look to my right and see Mauricio grabbing someone's ass?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
In my memory bank. Do you think Mauricio's meal was comped?
I have a question. When do you date? Let's say you start dating somebody and then their birthday is kind of soon and you're in that period where you're like, I'm not gonna get you a gift, but
Do you guys dare me to go into a restaurant and be like, do you know who I am? Sometimes I'm on the couch on the vile files.
Please don't.
Weil ich, ich war so, ich würde Leute im Auge stören. Und ich war so, ich möchte dich anschauen, nachdem du mich gerade geäußert hast. Weil die meisten Leute waren dumm. I would get, when Starbucks, so Starbucks never had POS tips. It was always only cash tips. And then halfway through when I was working there, they started, they put it on like our POS.
And literally the disdain people would look at me with, when I didn't even have control over it. I wasn't even turning anything around. It was just there. And they would literally look, they would be like, are you Are you fucking kidding me? And I would be like, look at me and hit no tip then. If you're gonna be so mad about this, you can hit no tip. I don't give a shit.
Ja, und dann, genau, wenn sie das gemacht haben, war ich so, Period. Aber ich war so, du musst mich anschauen. Und das Ding war so, wenn ich nur jemanden einen schwarzen Kaffee bekommen würde, würde ich sagen, lass mich nicht.
Aber dann, ja, und dann, wenn jemand fragt, was für die komplizierteste Trink in der Welt, und dann werden sie verrückt, wenn sie einen Tipp verlassen müssen, bin ich so, Mädchen, denkst du, dass ich genug bezahlt bin, um dich mit diesem Thema zu handeln? Ich bin so kind, ich biete, ich bin so, ich habe früher Leute gefordert, um ihre Trinken günstiger zu machen, und dann würden sie nicht trinken.
Ja.
Ja, es gibt eine... Ich fühle mich, als würde ich überholt werden, um zu steigen oder dumme Sachen in L.A.
Du musst wirklich was tun.
Und ich werde überwältigt. Ja, die eine Zeit, als ich überwältigt wurde, habe ich angefangen zu weinen. Aber es war, weil ich überwältigt wurde, als jemand neben meiner Hochschule war. Zu Hause. Und dann war ich so, wie der Polizist seine Lichter aufgedrückt hat, als ich durch eine Intersektion ging. Und ich war so, ich habe noch nie überwältigt worden.
Und ich war so, ich werde nicht in der Mitte dieser Intersektion stoppen. Also habe ich gewartet, bis ich über die Straße kam. Und dann habe ich überwältigt. Und dann sagte dieser Polizist, dass ich zurückgezogen werde, weil er sagte, dass ich in die Szene fliege. Weil er sah, dass ich meine Lizenz gesehen habe. Meine Hausaufgabe war auf der Straße. Und ich war so, was zur Hölle?
Und dann habe ich angefangen zu weinen, weil ich furchtbar war. Und er hat sich literally zurückgezogen und mir ein Ticket gegeben, nicht um zu steigen. aber für das Verletzen eines Unfallfahrzeuges. Und er sagte, wenn ich ein Stadttrupper wäre, hätte ich dein Auto gewechselt. Und ich dachte, Mädchen, was zur Hölle? Du und mein Vater kannten den Polizisten auch.
Und er sagte, dieser Typ ist ein Verlierer. Er hängt bei der Hochschule aus, weil ich nichts anderes tun will. Und ich dachte, Period. Aber ich habe 75 Dollar bezahlt.
I don't know justice for Emeril.
I don't know. He is sexualized a little bit. I think he's gotten overly sexualized on the show.
He didn't get overly sexualized. I'm sure there's other things that he also did that would have maybe rounded him out as a person that's not just fucking. I don't know.
Nicht so viel Gerechtigkeit. Nein, oder eine gute Person, um auf Summer House zu sein. Ich denke einfach, dass er... Ich denke, dass die Art und Weise, wie die Konversation um ihn herum ist, so übersexualisiert ist, weil er in die Edit gegangen ist und weil er nicht unbedingt gut auf dem Show gespielt hat.
Ich denke, dass die Leute auf ihn eine Perspektive haben, die vielleicht nicht die ganze Wahrheit ist.
Like, go and console her. They're all just like, come on back. Well, from Britney's perspective, she's like, I, like, been there. Come on back. Weißt du, was ich meine? Sie sagt, nein, stopp. Nein, stopp. Wir tun alle das. Tom hat uns versucht, uns zu überzeugen, dass wir unsere Meinung über Jesse verändern werden.
I mean, I do that sometimes, but it's when I have like, Me and my friends will be drinking Trader Joe's Box Wine and I'm like, wait. Exactly.
But have you guys seen Wine Country? The best movie in the world?
They do that all the time in the movie Wine Country. Everyone should go watch it.
Trauma response?
Jennifer Lawrence quotes Britney all the time.
When people start drinking and turn into a different person, it just gives me an ick about them as a whole person.
Und er ist im Bett, weil sie nicht wollen, dass er mit dem, was er sagen wird, oder an der Table tut, wenn er so trank ist. Ich vertraue es nicht.
I thought it was the other way around. Girl, I'm remembering this from when I was in high school.
I remember my mom had HBO, so I would use the regular HBO because it was through DirecTV. But now they're also, here's my biggest beef with David Zaslav right now, sir. Cracking down on password sharing on HBO.
Yes, it is, sir. She said first and last.
I think they're all doing that. They're like, Netflix did that. Netflix has been doing it, but the amount of mouths that my mother's HBO password feeds, it's truly devastating, what's happening.
In verschiedenen Orten. In verschiedenen Orten.
I gotta correct you. I'm so sorry. It's wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You said my name wrong every time. Demi? It's Demi?
I know, we were talking about such deep things that I was like, this isn't the place. But now that we've like talked about homes and, you know, we've reestablished just like normalcy. I'm like, now I got a talent. Now you have a bugger in your mouth. Yeah, you have a piece of kale in your teeth.
Es ist verbunden mit deinem Account, also ich denke, du solltest gut sein, weil du immer noch abrufen musst. Jedes Mal, wenn ich etwas auf Netflix schaue, muss ich meine Mutter anrufen und sicher machen, dass sie wach ist und auch in der Ostküste ist, um sicher zu machen, dass sie mich abrufen kann, wenn ich auf ihr Netflix logge, dass ich reise. Das ist verrückt.
Thank you.
It's Brett, right?
That's what he gets called everywhere we go.
nervös und auch einfach, ich weiß nicht, in Frieden, dass ich jede Situation bestmöglich gemacht habe, je nachdem, was die Verhältnisse waren und die Informationen, die ich hatte. Aber es ist immer nervig. Du weißt nie, was gezeigt wird, wie Dinge gedreht werden. Und es ist immer so, dass ich nicht weiß, dass das etwas ist, das du besser beantworten kannst als ich.
Ist es etwas, das du jemals gewohnt bist, dass du nur lebst, Okay, fair. Weil du die Wahrheit kennst, und du denkst, wer kümmert sich?
Ja, absolut. Ich weiß nicht, ob du mir Spezifiken nennen möchtest.
Yeah, okay, we'll go one for one. Jen. Yes, definitely with Jen, I feel like cameras come out and it's a performance.
Which you would think that like Whitney, right, who's pursuing acting, that you would be like, oh, this is an act. Like, no.
Okay, fair. Yep, that's true. That is true. Yeah, Jen is very performative. Everything was kind of an act. It was very much... Das langweilige Blinken.
Wie ist Jen in der Realität? Viel mehr zurückgelegt. Sie ist nicht so blöd, wie sie auf der Kamera kommt. Wenn das Sinn macht. Wenn es ein Problem gibt, wird sie sagen, das war eine Misskommunikation. Sie ist ein bisschen einfacher. Aber dann kommen Kameras raus und plötzlich ist sie wie diese blöde Jen, die... Sie ist bereit, jemanden rauszuholen und zu ihrem dummen Mann zu stehen.
Und es ist so, dass du nicht zu vorn bist.
Ja, und dein Mann ist eigentlich ein sehr netter Kerl. Das ist, wo sie sehr performativ wurde, war mit Zach.
But then apparently she was the breadwinner.
Was ist los? Ich wollte sagen, bist du es mit der Atmungsklasse verbunden, die wir gemacht haben? Weil ich dachte, das war... Ja, die Art, wie es gedreht wurde, sah wie eine volle Orgie aus. Aber Nocadamine, ja, es ist unglaublich. Es hat mein Leben literally gerettet.
Ich werde emotional darüber sprechen, weil es die Form der Therapie war, die in meinem Leben kam, in der Zeit, in der ich kämpfte, viel zu kämpfen hatte. Dämonen und fühlte viel Leid und Verzweiflung, um meine vorherige Beziehung zu beenden. Und ich fühlte, als hätte ich meine Familie zerbrochen. Und ich hatte viel zu tun.
Und es ist zu schlimm, dass es sich irgendwie, weißt du, gezwungen wurde, in der Weise, wie es war, wie diese negativen Dinge mit mir und Whitney. Und dann weiß ich nicht, wie es sich in der Saison 2 darstellt. Aber ich bin so, Jen, das ist nicht deine Geschichte. Wie habe ich Ketamin dir vorgestellt? Wie kam das überhaupt her? Ich bin so fasziniert davon.
Ich bin sehr sicher davon, weil die Leute sagen, Ketamin, das ist ein spezielles Ketamin. Ich sage, nein, das ist nicht das, was Ketamin für mich war. Es war sehr therapeutisch und ich habe es mit vielen anderen Werkzeugen benutzt. Es hat mich ganz literally geschliffen und auch meine Gehirnchemie verändert.
Ja, ich. Das ist, wie ich es mache. Okay.
Ja, es ist sehr kontrolliert. Es ist sehr, es ist mikrodost. Es ist sehr kontrolliert. Es ist durch einen IV. Okay. Wobei manche Leute es mit einer Pille nehmen. Und sie nehmen viel zu viel. Oder sie... They're not doing it in the right environment and then they lose control. In this situation, like you remove the IV and within like 10 minutes, you're completely back to normal.
No, no, no, no. You do it.
Ja, du hast dich auf deine Mutter gehalten. Und dann waren die Lichter aus. Und er hat gesagt, schalte die Lichter an, schalte die Lichter an. Es war eine überraschende Erfahrung.
Wo bist du heute mit Jesse? Ich habe Nick vorhin gesagt, dass sie mich auf alles blockiert hat. Wow. Und ich war wieder und wieder mit Nick, in Bezug auf Verantwortung, wenn es um solche Situationen geht. Und wie man das navigiert. Ich habe versucht, eine Konversation mit ihr zu haben, über alles.
Und sie sind ehrlich gesagt, das, was so schlecht ist, ist, dass so viel von dem war entweder Verständnis und Dinge, die getäuscht sind, oder einfach komplett, wie das Ego, das in den Weg kommt, tatsächlich, wirklich eine Konversation zu haben. Like really when you break it down.
It's like this was either a miscommunication and like why that hurt you so bad or that genuinely was never said that way or this, you know. And then when I tried to approach her to have that conversation, it was we'll talk on camera. And I was like, oh, so this is very like this is a very transactional relationship.
This is not like if a friend really cares about you, they would want to have a conversation that day. Let's jump on the call. Like, let's jump on. I mean, y'all had like a real. Freundschaft, richtig? Ich dachte es, ja.
Ja, er hat es nie gedacht, um ehrlich zu sein.
Well, and multiple things had happened at that point. I don't know what they show in Season 2 in terms of Jesse and I, but they talk about the contract situation. So you haven't seen it yet?
Am I supposed to have?
If you're not Prince, rest in peace, don't do it.
Nein, ich habe es noch nicht gesehen, also weiß ich nicht genau, was drin war und wie es gedreht wurde. Aber in Bezug auf Jesse und ich, so viele Dinge, nicht so viele Dinge, aber mehrere Dinge sind passiert, die zu diesem Punkt geführt haben. Und sie waren nicht Dinge, die man nicht necessarily durchwerfen konnte.
Waren es irgendwelche Dinge off camera, die passiert sind, die man sich denken kann? Ja. Yeah, a couple things were off camera. Specifically to, we kind of got into it, but I had opened up to all the girls after Vanderpump Villa that I'd been groped, sexually assaulted. I'm so sorry. That's okay. And I opened up to the girls and I asked them to not tell anyone.
I told them that, you know, a couple of the girls were like, you need to, like,
file against this guy like you like if this were me this is what i would do and i was just like guys like i need you to allow me to handle this the way that i want to handle it and um i just said i need you to respect that i don't want to talk about this and i don't want to make it legal i don't want all of the everything that comes with making this legal on my plate right now
with everything else going on. Like, I do not want this to become a thing. Please promise me you won't tell your husbands. Do not tell a soul. I think all but two weeks later, Jesse went on and went out to do Sheena's podcast and told Sheena. And I was like, you don't even know this person. Like, you don't even know Sheena.
Like, why would you in the first five minutes of knowing this person tell her something that I've asked you not to tell her? Und das war wirklich schmerzhaft für mich. Aber ich habe es sofort beantwortet. Und ich gebe mir da meine Schuld. Ich habe sie sofort angerufen. Je nachdem, wie ich darüber herausgefunden habe, habe ich sie angerufen. War das auf ihrer Show?
Sie hat nicht darüber gesprochen, aber sie hat ihr darüber gesprochen. Ich musste eigentlich mit ihr mitgehen, um diesen Podcast zu machen. Und sie und ich waren in einer Kämpfe über Negotiationskontrakte für Saison 2.
And so I ended up not going out and she was upset with me and I, to her credit, I kind of like ghosted her on the Sheena podcast and I didn't like let her know that I wasn't going to go. And I didn't even like respond to her. I was just so upset. And then she goes out to film the podcast and while they're out there filming, she talks about it.
So it was just a couple of things that had just like stacked up. And I don't know, I don't want to speak for you, but I do feel like that it was those couple instances like you had already been kind of uneasy, but it was those couple instances where you were like red flag. Am I am I correct in saying that?
Ich glaube, Taylor... Ich glaube nicht, Taylor kümmert sich um Geld. Als ich mit ihr über Brand-Deal gesprochen habe, hat sie gesagt, ich erinnere mich nicht, wie ich das letzte Mal mit einem Brand-Deal gemacht habe. Es ist sehr klar, wer in der Gruppe ist, um einen besseren Lebensstil für ihre Familie zu schaffen und Geld zu verdienen.
And none of them are gonna save you from these accusations, boo.
Und es ist sehr klar, wer in der Gruppe ist, um Ehren und Rekognition zu haben.
Definitely the lifestyle, the freedom. I grew up very, I would say modest, but on the poverty poor side. I just always knew I wanted better for my family. I did grow up thinking like, oh, it would be so fun to be like a Disney Channel star. It would be so fun to act and do these things.
And I think it took really being in that situation to be like, I'm not willing to sacrifice the things that people are willing to in this world for that kind of financial freedom. But that's what it was for, for me. It's always been about money. It's always been about creating a better life for my family and creating free time to spend time with my family.
Ich habe die Perspektive, und ich glaube, Ketamin hat mir viel geholfen. Die Perspektive von Leben und seiner echten Bedeutung. Und mich als, ja, ich bin unglaublich, ja, ich habe Selbstwert, ja, ich kenne meine Fähigkeiten, so lange ich an dich schaue und die gleichen Dinge für dich und dich sage. Aber ich bin immer noch... Nur ein Mensch.
Und für mich fühlt es sich ein bisschen wie, was bist du so aufgeregt? Es ist okay. Ich sage es immer zu Leuten, ich bin nur eine Frau. Glaub mir, am Ende des Tages bin ich nur eine Frau, die versucht, das Leben zu überleben. Und das ist ein bisschen seltsam für mich. Aber das Worshippen von Menschen ist seltsam für mich.
Ja, wir waren so, okay. Hatte Jessie früher dein Haar gemacht? Sie hat es ein paar Mal gemacht.
She's incredible. No, and I will say this. There's nothing wrong with it. It's so subjective. We did clear up how I could have handled the conversation with Taylor better. And I do see that perspective, where even just as a friend, that it wasn't my place to relay other people's opinions about it.
I think what I was getting so caught up on, and Nick helped me see this, was the semantics and the nuance of, I didn't say that
Jesse's shit at color I relayed the message that Jen Whitney and Layla said that she did a shitty job and I kept dying on that like but I wasn't the one that was shitting on it like these three girls were and I just relayed that and he was like well still like as a friend don't you see how it's problematic that you were relaying that information that wasn't yours to relay to sway someone else on their opinion which I see clear as day now how that was wrong
Like, I think it took me literally until hearing that perspective. So thank you, because I was dying on the hill of being like, but I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Like, what aren't you hearing? Instead of hearing Jesse's hurt of, okay, I get that you didn't say maybe this in this way, but this hurt me because you didn't have my back in that moment.
Das ist eine andere Gespräche, die wir hatten, in der ich ihm die Frage gestellt habe.
Wenn du einen Freund hattest, wo du Dinge hattest, wo es so ist, dass du einander verletzt hast, und dann entscheidet diese Person, sich komplett aus deiner Leben zu entfernen und dich auf alles zu blockieren, fühlst du, dass es nicht nur deine Verantwortung ist, sondern du fühlst, dass es dein Platz ist, nachdem sie dich klar blockiert haben und gesagt haben, ich will nichts mit dir zu tun haben und sagen, liebe mich, wähle mich, bitte hör mich aus.
Mhm. In that circumstance, it's almost kind of like if the conversation were to naturally happen, sure, like now I know like how to take full accountability on that. Because she kept saying like, you're not taking full accountability. And I didn't understand that. And I do regret that, you know.
So, yes, I would have that conversation and fully own, you know, my contribution to that situation as a whole. But I don't think I'd go knocking down her door necessarily to be like, wait, hold on. If y'all happen to be in the same, you would... Ich bin mir sicher, dass wir das werden. Also ja, ich werde das den ganzen Tag behalten, weil das ist etwas, was ich jetzt sehe.
Ich kann es nicht mehr halten. Ich glaube, das ist der Grund, warum ich die Frage habe.
He's like, because I gotta know. You take that question.
Ja, ich denke, das ist natürlich und völlig in Ordnung. Ich denke, es ist auch in Ordnung, darüber zu sprechen.
And Miranda.
Well, okay, now we're getting, now we're putting our foot in our mouth.
Because Jess did in her, Jessie did in her previous marriage.
Yeah, but that leaves Jesse, Taylor, Miranda.
Always a pleasure. Thanks for having us.
Yeah.
It's con.
You have a lot of opinion on trains. Ja, genau. I just think it's funny that a French film festival has strong opinions on nudity. I'm like, literally. That is kind of crazy.
Also, not for nothing, this is the festival that blues the warmest colors. Some of the horniest movies you've ever seen in your life have gotten lauded and praised, but then all of a sudden, if it's on the carpet, they're like, no.
It's art. This is a film festival.
This is like a high art film festival and nipples are too much.
No one asked me how my Mother's Day was.
You know whose fault it is?
But that wasn't at camp. That's what I thought about too, yeah.
Ich finde auch die Halle Berry Sache interessant, denn sie ist die Co-Chefin des Festivals dieses Jahr. Und sie musste das letzte Mal ihr Dress verändern. Also es ist so, wenn dieses Dresscode passieren wird, lasst es sie wissen vor all diesen Designern.
Es scheint, als es in diesem Artikel war, dass es ein letztes Mal war, dass sie vollständig ein Dress zu tragen hatte und dann es nicht tragen konnte, weil der Train zu groß war. Also ich weiß nicht, ob es ein Scheduling-Issue ist.
I don't know. I took Spanish.
I mean, I didn't get a gift. I looked at George Michael and I said, are you going to tell me happy Mother's Day? And you went, meh. So we did. Yeah, but there was attitude to it.
She's little. Kyle, you have 48 hours to respond.
Denkst du, dass er das tut, um Kyle zu spiken oder um sich selbst zu pressen? Was soll er sich pressen?
Mm-hmm.
You know, when I'm suffering in traffic, how come I never get to look to my right and see Mauricio grabbing someone's ass?
Can you remind me? Because that was such a long time ago.
And that wasn't Chase?
What were those things?
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Like you mentioned before, you and Taylor were friends for years before any of this.
And there clearly was a falling out.
How did the falling out really happen from your perspective? And I guess, yeah, like, how were you able to reconcile? Yeah. Or did you even reconcile before you decided to join the show?
So we are here now. So so from your perspective, there were rumors about just Taylor and her relationship amongst your community, which prompted her to want to, like, tell the whole story of the whole thing.
But even if you did at the time, wouldn't it be understandable if you were not wanting to be around Taylor?
We are very excited to talk with you. I feel like it's been a long time coming.
So you're really, you're really stuck in the middle here.
How do I handle this? That's also tough when you're like, Best friend or not, if your friend's doing something that you don't agree with, that's when being a friend becomes a real challenge.
Because being a friend... you know, hiding their secret as being a friend, holding them accountable. Like, is there a balance there? It can be very challenging.
Do you think you and Taylor are now on the same page of that timeline or events of that whole situation?
If she listens to this episode, is she going to be like,
Like what?
Different from each other's or different from what it was?
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So now we are embarking on season two and you are now a part of this cast. What happened and what was the timeline for you to not be a part of season one and then decide to join? Did you make first content and say, hey, I kind of want to be part of season two? Or did you get a phone call from someone saying, hey, are you sure you don't want to be a part of season two?
Was part of it, I mean, there must have been a part of you that saw how big the show became and how successful it was. And certainly after season one, it still seemed like the dynamic of the group was relatively positive, minus it seemed like Whitney was kind of been on the outs from the group.
It was a relatively like non-toxic environment, at least as a fan or someone who interviewed the ladies, that was my perception of it. So like as one of the OG moms of mom talk, I mean, there must have been a little of like, not resentment, but like, I don't know, like, why am I missing out on something I helped originate?
Yeah. No, it makes a lot of sense too. And just the, You know, it's a challenge with the world that you're a part of because there's a lot of excitement, fascination, privilege that comes with being on TV, being an influencer. You know, it's a job for sure. We gripe at opportunities. It's like, oh, I got to do this.
When you compare it to real work.
If you've had, you know, I'm not sure about your background. I imagine you've had some real work. You know, Nally, before she got into this world with me, was an accomplished surgical technologist. I was an accountant. So when you think about that, it's like it doesn't feel like real work.
And then there's a guilt associated like you have of like, well, if this thing I choose to be a part of affects my life in any way negatively, then I asked for it and I deserve it.
you know, and things like that because of the privileges, you know, it's like the, am I selling out?
What conversations do you have with Chase prior to saying yes to coming on the show?
Yeah. You can have you. It's like, yeah, you can be an authentic person and still have your boundaries. You know, like now and I have this show like, you know, sure. I hope that our audience thinks we're open and right and is happy with what we choose to share about our lives.
But like we we don't share everything, nor do we feel like we need to or want to. And it comes to fan, you know, fan is is short for fanatic. And, you know, I appreciate fans, but sometimes not not all fans are the same. Every fan has different expectations.
I think the challenge with social media is that fans have this perception of this incredible access to you and you have access to them through DMs, through comments.
And then our brains feel like, oh, well, you know, we want, again, there's that, I need to be grateful for this. This is a dream come true experience. Like, I can't lose my fans. So I have to make sure that like, I am almost in a way, acknowledging them or listening to them or, you know, it could definitely be a real...
Were you worried outside of Taylor? Cause you guys had your friendship fallout drama, whatever, but coming into this show, you have an established group of women that regardless of you starting mom talk, they, I guess took it over and really ran with it and had its success without the scandal.
You know, were you worried about being welcomed into the group?
Were there any women in particular that you felt more judgment from or criticism from than others?
Michaela and Macy seem incredibly sweet, but they also seem the most devout and conservative with their faith. And then simultaneously, just from a plan perspective, they're, in a lot of the ways seem the most judgmental.
Okay. But like, yeah, Michaela does seem.
Quiet and demure.
Or you just like have it horned up enough.
It's just like, you know.
One of the closest.
Yeah. More experience. I mean, the frontal lobe stuff, I think is kind of more of like a. It's not like, you know, when we're 22, we can't think for ourselves and things like that. But I think more realistically, like you said, it seems to be like a lack of experience now more than ever, right?
You'll see it get messy. You'd rather not say which direction.
You know, and I get you can't necessarily spoil him, but like in terms of what, yeah, like without maybe giving the why, I'd love to know your opinion.
I was like, we got to get you on.
Because 20, 30 years ago, before like hookup culture was what it is today, where everyone's just kind of out there and using sex positivity as a way to just kind of have sex with everybody, seemingly without consequences. Right.
So you think Jesse has been very forthcoming with everything that might be revealed in season two?
Well, I guess, let me ask you this. Has Jessie admitted anything to you that she did something pretty like outside that, well, that shocked you?
Yeah. Okay. I guess like to add to that question, it's my perception that again, like season one, you know, as great as it was, seemed relatively like vanilla, not vanilla. I mean, hell, it was a hell of a season. It was great to watch. Um, but a lot of the drama, like Jen and Zach, you know, um,
And it followed a lot of like just the relationships or the challenges in Mormon culture with young marriages and things like that. You had, you know, Whitney kind of having a fallout with the group and Whitney kind of almost seemed like fine with it. And she was pregnant and kind of like, you know what, maybe didn't like the drama. Season two, it seems like deep.
yeah things are getting dark their friendships are being questioned yeah they're ending who in the group do you think and it can be multiple it could be zero uh has been most affected and changed as a result of the attention money fame or success that this show has brought to any of these women
And yet when you're still connected to a very conservative church and organization where there's still a lot of taboos around sex and a lot of suppression, regardless of what's happening in the outside world, you know, you know, you guys are still like meeting at a very young age, getting married at a very young age. You were 20. When you got married to Chase, right?
Okay. Why?
When it comes to the Jesse and Demi fallout, and thank you for sharing your opinion because I know it's delicate. Right. And you want to be careful with your words. But as you pointed out, you're leaning more, I guess, Team Jesse, for lack of a better way of saying. Right.
are but you don't sound completely confident are you you're open to being wrong about that and kind of just do you think more might be revealed or like or do you feel like it's a lot of she said she said right now and right now you find jesse's version to be more believable but or are you pretty firm in your opinion or do you think it's possible you could be wrong
At that point, you were.
And when you say other people involved, are you talking about Marciano?
You've had?
So like, I got to imagine it must be difficult even in the Mormon community.
You know, because it's not like you guys are insulated in a bubble. You know, it's not like you're not interacting with even Salt Lake City, I'm guessing, has people who aren't Mormon.
And so, you know, whether it's media, you know, you get porn on the Internet, you know, you have all this access to these things while still trying to live this devout lifestyle. I can see how temptation enters into a relationship or a group of friends.
Do you think Jen's an honest person?
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, that's ultimate. I mean, that, that cameras do that when Mike's, you know, it's just the stakes are heightened, but yeah, there's a big difference between. leaning in to the emotion you're feeling, which is ultimately what reality TV is, right? Like, you know, I've covered reality TV for better part of a decade. There's always this fascination with reality TV.
And then there's always these discussions about the producer relationship they have with cast and are they making cast do things they don't want to do? My general opinion, having, you know, and I can't speak for everyone's experience and there's Plenty of bad actors in any industry.
But generally speaking, my opinion is like all producers are really doing is they're there to validate your most intense feelings. They're not the friend who makes you that goes, are you sure you want to do that? No. They're not reminding you of the regret you could feel for just expressing yourself in that moment. But there's a big difference between that and literally just performing a scene.
And then ending the scene and just being like, all right, well, anyways, what's for lunch? Yes. As if you're literally acting.
And I've seen reality TV people do that in real time. Yeah. They're in the wrong profession, I guess, for that. Yeah. But as far as you're concerned, you don't really see that amongst the group.
Give me some years and some therapy under my belt and then we can talk about it. Yeah. You were definitely giving different energy than Taylor at the time. Oh, for sure.
I didn't imagine they'd even want you guys doing that stuff. Yeah.
Or what to do.
Who amongst the group do you feel like is the most misrepresented or there's more to them to what we've seen so far? The most misunderstood. Yeah.
Do you think it's growth on her part or do you think it's her... her figuring out, like learning from her mistakes and gaming the system because she's, she's not stupid. I've never met Whitney. I look forward to having an opportunity to do that. But, and again, this is all just what I've seen on TV.
So it might be completely inaccurate, but she, you know, and I, and I say, this is someone who's strategic and I can be calculated. You know, I like to think I have a brain. There's nothing bad about having smarts, but like, do you think her growth is sincere or more calculated?
It's like, get Miranda to forgive you. Yeah.
I mean, we've heard Taylor's version a long time ago, but from your point of view, how do these conversations unfold? Was it just more like we're all together having a DoorDash party? And someone says, let's play spin the bottle when we're drunk. And then it kind of unravels from there.
Yeah. It's just, you know, with this particular fallout, sadly, it just feels like there's conversations going on that are very heavy and very serious.
And it seems like a real shame.
I do. I just want to put some clarity on and have this question because the stuff is starting to get out there. Yes. Marciano.
So to me, refer to him as a sexual predator in the comments. You have your opinion about the situation. You know, way more than us.
This information is coming out in real time. I'm of the understanding that the accusation is around like he grabbed her in a way that she felt was inappropriate.
Yes. For the people who were there, it sounds like Jen and Jess outside of Demi, who seem to be questioning Demi's integrity. How can they be so confident unless they were literally around her 24-7?
that you're under the impression was consensual. Yes. That seems to be the biggest driving force, whether it's you or Jesse or any of the other women, that's stopping you ladies from having a hard time believing to me.
Well, thanks for having that conversation. I know it's very difficult and we, all of us obviously want to be respectful and you know more than we know, but you're still, as you just mentioned, you weren't there, you're heavily involved because you're friends with these women. So I appreciate you trying to delicately have this conversation. I know it's not easy.
So thank you for trying to have it with us.
A lot of this stuff we're talking about right now is, for all we know, there's more fighting in the comments as we speak.
And this stuff was playing out this morning before we sat down and recorded. And by the time this episode comes out, which will be a few weeks from now. Right. Who knows where we will stand with the information that is out there and what we're even talking about. So. Yes. Just for those listening. Yeah. It's a lot to unpack. Before we let you go, anything you want to share?
I mean, you've been so open. It's been great getting to know you. We're excited to see you join this cast. I speak for myself when I say that. But just any final thoughts before the world gets to see you and the rest of these ladies tomorrow on season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
Are you dating?
There's a lot of, I think, fear when it comes to specifically women, you know, who are leaving relationships to enter in the dating world as a single mom.
what have you learned and what can you offer to any women out there who, who are in your position, who are considering being in your position or just starting to be in your position? We've heard all the fears. Right. I'm, you know, all the worries have been well documented, but what, What have you gained from your independence as a single mom?
And what are things that you have learned to appreciate as a single mom that maybe you can share with our audience to offer them more of a silver lining and hope and optimism around being an independent woman?
Who was obviously out there being.
Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Wishing you the best of luck. Excited to see people watch you this season. And if I can offer you any unsolicited advice, like TV's bullshit, the internet's bullshit. Like the more you can, you know, this is a time for you.
I hope that to, whether it's your kids, even your ex-husband who have a positive relationship with your family, those real relationships will like center you, ground you. And the more you can focus on their opinions and their completely ignore the other stuff, the better you will be because it really, you know, this is a job for you, you know, and sort of treat it as such. It's entertainment.
No pineapples on different lawns.
Let people be entertained, you know, and allow them to think and feel whatever they're going to think and feel because I'm sure you've learned this already. You can't control the opinions of everyone out there. So you might as well just like focus on what's in front of you and what matters. And if you can do that, I think you'll be glad that you did.
It's hard, but it's a process. If you can do that, then I look forward to watching you on many more seasons to come.
Thank you guys for listening. Don't forget that season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is out tomorrow on Hulu. They're dropping 10 juicy episodes for you to binge, watch, and digest. And we will be covering it the whole way through.
And we'll see you back tomorrow for another episode of RR with our special guests, Demi and Brett, to preview the upcoming season and get into some of the more juicy stuff conversation so more to come good luck with that bye
Being, you know.
Her true self and putting out the story. What was that whole experience like? Like when it first like dropped.
Yeah. Is, is the regret more centered around people knowing, and here we are having, you know, it's been two years removed and obviously it's our first time talking to you and it's, it's this irrelevant topic given the show that you're on. Uh, and there's still a lot, is it centered around more shame and the fear of, you know,
yeah the fear that this will always kind of follow you is like a scarlet letter or or is the regret you know more around maybe my marriage would have wouldn't have fallen apart had we not partaken in this type of activity
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, obviously, like what you guys partook in is untraditional kind of relationship. Right.
It's not for everybody. No, I suppose. So like if you were to try it, like there might be a lot of people who might go, oh, that was I was into that. Yeah, that was a fun thing. They discover a kink they're into and other people might be like, you know what? tried it. I'm good.
You know, like even some people who might like be confused about their sexuality and maybe they, they make out with someone of the same sex out of pure curiosity only to be like, I guess I'm in fact straight.
Yes, exactly. And other people might realize that they really enjoy that experience and dive a little deeper.
So that, that makes a lot of sense.
I think one Taylor has put out there that like couples were having sex like with each other around other couples. Is that something that happened?
Like they were having sex with like an audience.
Okay. But like, I guess in a way you guys could see each other if you wanted to.
Sure. It seems like, you know, Taylor, we've really enjoyed getting to know her and enjoyed interviewing with her and getting to watch the season. Like, you know, it seems like Taylor is a very dynamic person who will say things. There's a lot of truth to what they're saying, but they're vague enough to allow people to... Run with theories. Yes.
Do you think that's intentional on Taylor's part or do you think that's just a product of Taylor? You know, she's been very vulnerable about having her own demons and her own issues she's working through. And do you think it's just a product of her just, you know, very sometimes messy figuring her own life out at the sometimes the sacrifice of other people's being involved?