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Demis Hassabis

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2109 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And I think we could reduce down drug discovery from taking years, sometimes a decade to do, down to maybe weeks or even days over the next 10 years.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

We're building up the platform right now, and we have great partnerships with Eli Lilly.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

I think you had the CEO speaking earlier, and Novartis, which are fantastic, and our own internal drug programs.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And I think we'll be entering sort of preclinical phase sometime next year.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

That's right, and we're working on cancers and immunology and oncology and we're working with places like MD Anderson.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

Yeah, it's a great question.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

Actually, for the moment, and I think probably for the next five years or so, we're building what maybe you could call hybrid models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So AlphaFold itself is a hybrid model where you have the learning component, this probabilistic component you're talking about, which is based on neural networks and transformers and things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And that's learning from the data you give it, any data you have available.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

But also, in a lot of cases with biology and chemistry, there isn't enough data to learn from.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So you also have to build in some of the rules about chemistry and physics that you already know about.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So, for example, with AlphaFold, the angle of bonds between atoms.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And make sure that AlphaFold understood you couldn't have atoms overlapping with each other and things like that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

Now, in theory, it could learn that, but it would waste a lot of the learning capacity.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So actually, it's better to kind of have that as a constraint in there.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

Now, the trick is, with all hybrid systems, and AlphaGo was another hybrid system where there's a neural network learning about the game of Go and what kind of patterns are good.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And then we had Monte Carlo Tree Search on top, which was doing the planning.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And so the trick is, how do you marry up

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

a learning system with a more handcrafted system, bespoke system, and actually have them work well together.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And that's pretty tricky to do.