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Demis Hassabis

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I think that's actually one of the areas that

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

A lot more research needs to be done on mechanistic analysis of the representations that these systems build up.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I sometimes like to call it virtual brain analytics.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

In a way, it's a bit like doing fMRI or single cell recording from a real brain.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

What's the analogous analysis techniques for these artificial minds?

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

There's a lot of great work going on on this sort of stuff.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

People like Chris Ola.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I really like his work and a lot of computational neuroscience techniques, I think, could be brought to bear on analyzing these current systems we're building.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

In fact, I try to encourage a lot of my computational neuroscience friends to start thinking in that direction and applying their know-how to the large models.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I think neuroscience has added a lot.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

If you look at the last sort of 10, 20 years that we've been at it at least, and I've been thinking about this for 30 plus years.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I think in the earlier days of this sort of new wave of AI, I think neuroscience was providing a lot of interesting directional clues.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So things like reinforcement learning, combining that with deep learning, some of our pioneering work we did there, things like experience replay, even the notion of attention, which has become super important.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

A lot of those original sort of inspirations come from some understanding about how the brain works, not the exact specifics.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

Of course, one's an engineered system, the other one's a natural system.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So it's not so much about a one-to-one mapping of a specific algorithm.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

It's more kind of inspirational direction, maybe some ideas for architecture or algorithmic ideas or representational ideas.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And because you know the brain's an existence proof that general intelligence is possible at all, I think the history of human endeavors has been that once you know something's possible, it's easier to push hard in that direction because you know it's a question of effort then and sort of a question of when, not if.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And that allows you to, I think, make progress a lot more quickly.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So I think neurosciences has inspired a lot of the thinking, at least in a soft way, behind where we are today.