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And that's not something our systems, well, we have really have any idea how our systems could do.

But they can, they are suitable for searching large combinatorial spaces if one can specify the problem in that way with a clear objective function.

So that's very useful for already many of the problems we deal with today, but not the most high level creative problems.

We don't know how long AGI is going to be.

And we always used to say, back even when we started DeepMind, that we don't have to wait for AGI in order to bring incredible benefits to the world.

And especially, my personal passion has been AI for science and health.

And you can see that with things like AlphaFold and all of our various nature papers of different domains and material science work and so on.

I think there's lots of exciting directions and also impact in the world through products too.

I think it's very exciting and a huge opportunity, unique opportunity we have as part of Google of

They've got dozens of billion user products that we can immediately ship our advances into and then billions of people can improve their daily lives and enriches their daily lives and enhances their daily lives.

So I think it's a fantastic opportunity for impact on all those fronts.

And I think the other reason from a point of view of AGI specifically is that it battle tests your ideas.

So you don't want to be in a sort of research bunker where you just theoretically are pushing some things forward, but then actually your internal metrics start deviating from real world things that people would care about or real world impact.

So you get a lot of feedback

direct feedback from these real world applications that then tells you whether your systems really are scaling or actually is, you know, do we need to be more data efficient or sample efficient because most real world challenges require that, right?

And so it kind of keeps you honest and pushes you, you know,

nudging and steering your research directions to make sure they're on the right path.

So I think it's fantastic.

And of course, the world benefits from that, society benefits from that on the way, maybe many, many years before AGI arrives.

Yeah, well, look, it's been fantastic, actually, over the last year, of course, it's been challenging to do that, like any any big integration coming together.