Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And then on top of that, there's the thinking systems, the new paradigm of the last year where they get smarter the longer amount of inference time you give them at test time.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
So all of those things need a lot of compute.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And I don't really see that slowing down.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And as AI systems become better, they'll become more useful and there'll be more demand for them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
So both from the training side, the training side actually is only just one part of that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
It may even become the smaller part of what's needed in the overall compute that's required.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
We did a little video of the servers frying eggs and things, and that's right.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And we're going to have to figure out how to do that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
There's a lot of interesting hardware innovations that we do.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
As you know, we have our own TPU line, and we're looking at, like, inference-only things, inference-only chips, and how we can make those more efficient.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
We're also very interested in building AI systems, and we have done the help with energy usage.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
So help data center energy, like for the cooling systems, be efficient, grid optimization, and then eventually things like helping with plasma containment fusion reactors.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
We've done lots of work on that with Commonwealth Fusion, and also one could imagine reactor design.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And then material design, I think, is one of the most exciting new types of
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
Solar material, solar panel material, room temperature superconductors has always been on my list of dream breakthroughs and optimal batteries.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And I think a solution to any, you know, one of those things would be absolutely revolutionary for, you know, climate and energy usage.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
And we're probably close, you know, and again, in the next five years to having AI systems that can materially help with those problems.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
I think fusion and solar are the two that I would bet on.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games
Solar, I mean, you know, it's the fusion reactor in the sky, of course.