Demon Erasers

If there is this all-powerful God, this all-loving God, right?

All knowledge, all everything, okay?

Yeah.

he has the ability to create free will and also, okay, just let me finish, let me finish.

He would also have the ability to see to it that everyone comes to him as a result of free will.

And I think that you would admit that people die without knowing him and also with suffering immensely.

So the whole thing is that if you believe all these premises over here,

You can't make sense of the suffering.

And so you're talking about free will and you're saying that God wants you to know him, but God wants you to know him that you came to him as a result of free will.

Okay, well, once again, if he is all powerful and he is all loving, then my opinion is that it goes without saying that he would create a reality where we still all came to him.

little robots no how is that not so so now what you're doing is you're doing what's called a false equivalency so you're saying it's either or and i'm not saying and i'm not saying it's either or from these premise that you would agree on and you would say you believe sure i am saying that it would follow if he was all loving he was all powerful there is free will and everything else that you stated i am saying that if you looked at all those premises

you would come to the conclusion that all of us are going to have a relationship with God, knowing him, ending up in heaven, whatever it is supposedly that he wants.

I think you do.

And once again, to me, that goes back to...

You wouldn't have the goodness in your heart if you didn't have a relationship with God.

He's in you.

And to me, that's just life.

What sustains life is a symbiotic relationship.

Life doesn't happen without symbiosis.

So the very reason why we exist, why this planet is here, is because there are processes that what goes out is ultimately what comes back in.