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Denée Buchko

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94 total appearances

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The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

And that's what we kind of see in our study, or that's what we kind of look at.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

I think the naive thought about this, and I'm sure it may not be the full picture or even true at all, is that early cave-dwelling humans had to deal with snakes and maybe also spiders in caves.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

And so a little innate, you know, evolved fear would be a good thing.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

But that doesn't account for the fact that so many people are not scared of these things.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

How do we end up with this fear?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

How do we end up not having this fear?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

Yeah, okay, so what you're saying is absolutely correct, sorry.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

There is a not small pool of people who would argue that something like this, this widespread aversion towards snakes or fear towards snakes and spiders could be due to something like an innate mechanism to protect ourselves that evolved over time.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

evolutionarily this theory possible, but there's not a lot of great evidence for it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

So when we look at the research on babies and really young children, including the study that I ran, none of these children and none of the very young babies that we have run studies on are afraid of snakes.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

We don't see indications that they're afraid of them.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

So this is something that looks like probably develops as children interact with our culture, with other people.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

And what we see or what I have found is that it has a large amount to do with the way that we talk about these animals and the way that we represent them in the greater culture as well.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

So how are we talking about these animal snakes that cause kids to become so scared of them before we talk about how we can intervene and make them not scared of them?

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

OK, so one major thing for sure is.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

The way that we talk about snakes often tends to be a lot more objectifying than the way we talk about other animals.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

So when we talk about snakes, often what we see in parents when they're talking to their kids or just individuals when they're looking at pictures or viewing them, they'll refer to them not using any pronouns.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

So as it rather than you see a squirrel or a bunny rabbit.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

Running down the street, people are more likely to say that, oh, he's so cute or she's so cute rather than it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
Dislike of Snakes: Learned or Innate?

So this objectifying language can contribute to us thinking about these animals as being different than other animals.