Dennis McKenna

Kind of comes next. Yeah, I'm familiar with all that.

Kind of comes next. Yeah, I'm familiar with all that.

Kind of comes next. Yeah, I'm familiar with all that.

Right, right. And really, there isn't. I mean, many of these drugs were psychoactive. Very interesting that you should mention Galen, because Galen was… one of the first more or less modern pharmacologists. In some ways, he was a phytochemist, and he was a pharmacologist, and he was mucking around with all these formulations, combinations of drugs and extractions and, you know, preparations.

Right, right. And really, there isn't. I mean, many of these drugs were psychoactive. Very interesting that you should mention Galen, because Galen was… one of the first more or less modern pharmacologists. In some ways, he was a phytochemist, and he was a pharmacologist, and he was mucking around with all these formulations, combinations of drugs and extractions and, you know, preparations.

Right, right. And really, there isn't. I mean, many of these drugs were psychoactive. Very interesting that you should mention Galen, because Galen was… one of the first more or less modern pharmacologists. In some ways, he was a phytochemist, and he was a pharmacologist, and he was mucking around with all these formulations, combinations of drugs and extractions and, you know, preparations.

This very interesting… That you bring this up, because this actually segues very smoothly into the topic that I am going to talk about at this COCA conference that we're organizing. I've been thinking, you know, what am I going to talk about?

This very interesting… That you bring this up, because this actually segues very smoothly into the topic that I am going to talk about at this COCA conference that we're organizing. I've been thinking, you know, what am I going to talk about?

This very interesting… That you bring this up, because this actually segues very smoothly into the topic that I am going to talk about at this COCA conference that we're organizing. I've been thinking, you know, what am I going to talk about?

And I'm not an expert on coca or cocaine or any of that other than, you know, I'm certainly not like some of the people that have spent their whole lives talking about it. So I've been wondering, what am I going to talk about? And what I'm going to talk about at the COCA conference is – and this is just still being formulated in my mind.

And I'm not an expert on coca or cocaine or any of that other than, you know, I'm certainly not like some of the people that have spent their whole lives talking about it. So I've been wondering, what am I going to talk about? And what I'm going to talk about at the COCA conference is – and this is just still being formulated in my mind.

And I'm not an expert on coca or cocaine or any of that other than, you know, I'm certainly not like some of the people that have spent their whole lives talking about it. So I've been wondering, what am I going to talk about? And what I'm going to talk about at the COCA conference is – and this is just still being formulated in my mind.

I'm going to talk about how – I'm going to talk about the reemergence – of spirit into medicine, right? Back in the day when Galen and Paracelsus and all these people, Paracelsus was another amazing figure, very modern ideas about pharmacology and drugs. He was the one that articulated the idea that dose was important. He said there's There is no drug that is not a poison.

I'm going to talk about how – I'm going to talk about the reemergence – of spirit into medicine, right? Back in the day when Galen and Paracelsus and all these people, Paracelsus was another amazing figure, very modern ideas about pharmacology and drugs. He was the one that articulated the idea that dose was important. He said there's There is no drug that is not a poison.

I'm going to talk about how – I'm going to talk about the reemergence – of spirit into medicine, right? Back in the day when Galen and Paracelsus and all these people, Paracelsus was another amazing figure, very modern ideas about pharmacology and drugs. He was the one that articulated the idea that dose was important. He said there's There is no drug that is not a poison.

It's the dose that makes the difference. So all these people were making extracts and doing different things, and they were pulling extracts out and that sort of thing. In fact, early distillation technology – of fermented fruits and that sort of thing. You could ferment fruits and get wine and beers. But then there were people trying to concentrate those using primitive distillation techniques.

It's the dose that makes the difference. So all these people were making extracts and doing different things, and they were pulling extracts out and that sort of thing. In fact, early distillation technology – of fermented fruits and that sort of thing. You could ferment fruits and get wine and beers. But then there were people trying to concentrate those using primitive distillation techniques.

It's the dose that makes the difference. So all these people were making extracts and doing different things, and they were pulling extracts out and that sort of thing. In fact, early distillation technology – of fermented fruits and that sort of thing. You could ferment fruits and get wine and beers. But then there were people trying to concentrate those using primitive distillation techniques.

And their understanding of these medicines, it was not about chemistry. It was that they were infused with a certain spiritual essence, in fact, an intelligence, in fact, spirits. And the word spirits, we talked about distilled spirits. That goes back to an age when they were actually trying to take the spirit out of the plant and concentrate it.

And their understanding of these medicines, it was not about chemistry. It was that they were infused with a certain spiritual essence, in fact, an intelligence, in fact, spirits. And the word spirits, we talked about distilled spirits. That goes back to an age when they were actually trying to take the spirit out of the plant and concentrate it.